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re: I saw something disgusting from a hunter today

Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:41 am to
Posted by HotKoolaid
Member since Oct 2017
444 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:41 am to
Is it legal to intentionally wound an animal? I would think not.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Take the tinfoil hat off


it isn't conspiracy. it's fact. Hunters make up a small percentage of the general population. Hell, it seems like Mississippi is 90% hunter when its only about 12% of the population buys hunting licenses. That is in a southern state. Hunters have to rely on folks who have a positive view of hunting when it comes to a vote. That's why it is important to promote hunting as ethical and humane.
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Hunters have to rely on folks who have a positive view of hunting when it comes to a vote. That's why it is important to promote hunting as ethical and humane.



This is absolutely true. I'll shoot a coyote in a heartbeat, and if it runs off, I'm probably not going to go look for it. But we as hunters do have to keep the public perception in mind.
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:05 am to
It doesn't aggravate me. As childish as it may be, it's a non-issue for me.

There will always be dumbasses in my life.

My job isn't to control or change those dumbasses.

My job is to distance myself from them.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

it's a non-issue for me.


it should be an issue for every responsible hunter.
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:04 am to
I disagree.

You have a problem with authority that you do not have.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:10 am to
quote:

You have a problem with authority that you do not have.



If you see a guy doing unethical shite and just turn a blind eye to it then you don't have a bad hunter and a good hunter. you have two bad hunters.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12706 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:15 am to
quote:

it's a non-issue for me.

quote:

My job is to distance myself from them.


As difficult as this may be for you to understand, as a hunter, you will NEVER distance yourself from an uneducated, won't-be-educated, anti-hunter. To them, poachers and hunters are synonymous with a way of life that they would rather see die. Maybe you don't care about their opinion and believe that hunting will never be banned, but some of us would rather not give them added ammunition.

So if you think you can distance yourself from an otherwise legal but unethical hunter, you are sadly mistaken. In this day and age, that kind of behavior has to be frowned upon by ethical hunters. It's bad for the sport, whether it's legal or not. No better than a guy cutting the backstrap off a deer and leaving the rest to waste.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:16 am
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:35 am to
Look man, I'm 40. I've been in the woods hunting ethically since I was 9.

I've seen some of the best and I've seen some of the worst.

At this point in my life, i choose to surround myself with some of the best.

It's my choice, not yours or theirs.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12706 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to
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At this point in my life, i choose to surround myself with some of the best.

It's my choice, not yours or theirs.


Ok, you clearly missed my point. But, like you said, that's your choice.
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:45 am to
I understand your point - the mistakes of others need to be rectified by others.

I disagree.

I'm not big brother.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12706 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:05 am to
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I understand your point - the mistakes of others need to be rectified by others.


No, I didn't say they needed to be rectified. I said they need to be condemned by ethical hunters. There is a difference. I tend to agree with you, in the sense that I cannot make someone do the right thing.

But as a group, we can condemn certain practices as unethical, and anyone who practices that is on the outside of the "circle". When we take a devil-may-care stance on something like this, simply because "I don't hunt with him", it sends the wrong message to anti-hunters, and even nonhunters who may only be indifferent to the idea of hunting.

Gut shooting a coyote, or any animal for that matter, and allowing it to go off and die is unethical, whether it's a pest or not. Just shoot to kill right then and there, and go drag it off if you don't want it there. You're using a bullet all the same, so why the need to not go for an ethical kill?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 11:08 am
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:23 am to
I condem it.

You condem it.

But you want to publicize or speak or note your condemnation and I don't.

That's my difference.

It doesn't make you or me a better outdoorsman, either way.

Unless you are a game warden, you have no authority to tell people they are being assholes.

I'm glad the outdoors means a lot to you.

Be proud of that. I am.

That's why we are all here on this board.

Pretty cool.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:24 am to
stop yapping about it cause you're making outdoorsmen appear bitchy.
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:26 am to
It's a worthy debate.

Nevertheless, your posts lack.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:28 am to
quote:

It's a worthy debate.

Nevertheless, your posts lack.


nah, bitching about it on facebook only brings more attention to the "wrong" he wants to fight and trying to hide.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:29 am to
obvious troll is obvious.
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:29 am to
Maybe so.

People crusade for all types of randomness.

So be it.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:31 am to
quote:

People crusade for all types of randomness.

So be it.



interesting point. think about it.

OP has openly admitted to wounding animals with his negligent shots already and just blamed the ole 'happens to anybody' theory.
Posted by Jimbo21165
Member since May 2017
354 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:32 am to
Turning a blind eye is implied consent.
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