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re: Hunting club question
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:40 am to DieselTiger1
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:40 am to DieselTiger1
6 hunters at most. There are 12 members but half are grandparents wanting to take kids hunting or just help out around the camp.
It is Doyline, LA on Lake Bistineau.
Won't be a dictatorship I am going to bring some suggestions to the table and let club decide.
I think I answered all questions directed at me.
Salmons response sounds like what I was looking for
It is Doyline, LA on Lake Bistineau.
Won't be a dictatorship I am going to bring some suggestions to the table and let club decide.
I think I answered all questions directed at me.
Salmons response sounds like what I was looking for
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:43 am to thedogman
oh yeah, almost forgot the #1 rule of ALL
NO DOGS
NO DOGS
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:43 am to Salmon
So does the president in most clubs just decide what the rules are? Seems like that in itself is pretty flawed unless they are the landowner.
I couldn't hunt with grown men who have to be given rules in order to get them to act decent. Guess I've just been a lucky guy.
Grammar edit
I couldn't hunt with grown men who have to be given rules in order to get them to act decent. Guess I've just been a lucky guy.
Grammar edit
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 11:45 am
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:45 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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So does the president in most clubs just decide what the rules are?
like you said, it is usually voted upon
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:46 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I couldn't hunt with grown men who have to be given rules in order to get them to act decent.
also, in most cases, the rules are set for new members
you show them the rules so that they know whether or not they will fit in with the lease
hopefully all the members like rules, thus follow the rules, thus leading to everyone being able to hunt happily
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:48 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
In many clubs the lease holder is the president...
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:51 am to Salmon
I think rules are necessary to make a club operate with any kind of fluidity. When no rules are in place, then what happens when someone starts doing something that pisses off the majority of the members? If no rules are in place, that person will argue that point. If there are rules, he can jsut be told to carry his arse.
Having said that, rules should be fairly basic, and non intrusive to the way people enjoy hunting. Obviously there are some clubs which are more trophy oriented, and some are more for just comraderie. It really all depends on what you or the members want to get out of their hunting experience...
Having said that, rules should be fairly basic, and non intrusive to the way people enjoy hunting. Obviously there are some clubs which are more trophy oriented, and some are more for just comraderie. It really all depends on what you or the members want to get out of their hunting experience...
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:51 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
I am not imposing the rules on anyone I am bringing them up at a club meeting for discussion. For what it's worth a couple of members have asked that we put some in place before there are any incidents. It is more about being courteous to the other members and if everyone is aware of guidelines it will be easier. Most of the people in the camp have never been part of a club before and this is just to get a good ground floor for the future of the club. Also my family owns the land and out of the group that wants to "see after the club" I have the most ownership. The group that does not want to be part of running the club are the grandparents who simply want a place to hang out with their grand kids and don't care to much or at all about hunting.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:55 am to thedogman
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in stand time (morning/evening) out of stand time (morning/evening)
Hard to put rules down for this. What if a member shoots a deer, does he have to stay in stand? Also, some hunters can't be on the stand by a certain time due to work or other commitments.
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size of deer taken
2 does, one buck of choice (I hate this because it makes management impossible), other bucks must have three points or more on a side.
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guest hunts
Wives and kids under 18 can hunt on your membership. You can buy ONE guest buttom that adds a buck to your membership (but still can't kill more than 3 per state rules). All others must have memberships.
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private stand placement
Each member gets 3 stands. You can "buy" an extra stand for 1/3 of membership costs. Does not add deer to your limit.
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just my dad brother and I
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a little over 600 acres
Adding people will start to get tight.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:02 pm to thedogman
Rules for hunting clubs can be a good thing if they are agreed upon by all members and and not open for interpretation.
We had a rule of allowing members to kill a "choice" buck. Gave everyone a sort of a way out in case they accidentally shot a buck under 13" or had less than 7pts or if they saw a cowhorn spike or something they felt needed to be taken out the breeding pool. Seemed like a good rule until people started using the choice buck to shoot young bucks towards the end of the season. One guy killed a 6pt, then his wife killed a small 8, and a guest of his shot a spike. # young bucks killed on 300 acres just by one member with no repercussions. Not to mention 2 other members shot "choice" bucks that were nothing more than young bucks for meat.
just an example how "rules" dont always work
We had a rule of allowing members to kill a "choice" buck. Gave everyone a sort of a way out in case they accidentally shot a buck under 13" or had less than 7pts or if they saw a cowhorn spike or something they felt needed to be taken out the breeding pool. Seemed like a good rule until people started using the choice buck to shoot young bucks towards the end of the season. One guy killed a 6pt, then his wife killed a small 8, and a guest of his shot a spike. # young bucks killed on 300 acres just by one member with no repercussions. Not to mention 2 other members shot "choice" bucks that were nothing more than young bucks for meat.
just an example how "rules" dont always work
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:02 pm to thedogman
I wasn't trying to dog you out or anything. It was a serious question. All the clubs I fool with are really old. Not familiar with how things are done in the modern club.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:02 pm to TigerDeacon
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Adding people will start to get tight.
The layout of the land helps. About 100 or so acres is across a road and there is another 90 or so that is not accessible by woods from the larger tract. I realize it is still tight but no one in the club is what you would call OB serious hunters it is more or less a place to go for camaraderie with about 3 people that will seriously hunt and they won't even seriously hunt by anyone on here standards.
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Hard to put rules down for this. What if a member shoots a deer, does he have to stay in stand? Also, some hunters can't be on the stand by a certain time due to work or other commitments.
Good talking points and we will discuss at our meeting.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:04 pm to thedogman
It should be very easy to work out with that few members.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:05 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I wasn't trying to dog you out or anything. It was a serious question. All the clubs I fool with are really old. Not familiar with how things are done in the modern club.
No sweat man. I am hoping that just a few rules will eventually lead down to the road to a club like you are talking about.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:11 pm to thedogman
In my experience, rules are usually in place to keep a single person in line. I'm always more of a fan of eliminating that person rather than making a rule about it.
Also some people are quick to make a rule to change someone's behavior when simply confronting them about it will solve the issue. They usually don't know they are pissing people off until rules start popping up.
Eta: talking about down the road of course. I realize you're just starting and none of that is relevant at the first meeting.
Also some people are quick to make a rule to change someone's behavior when simply confronting them about it will solve the issue. They usually don't know they are pissing people off until rules start popping up.
Eta: talking about down the road of course. I realize you're just starting and none of that is relevant at the first meeting.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:14 pm to thedogman
Let me know if you decide to add any more new members. I'd like to have a place closer to my house
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:14 pm to thedogman
Sounds like trial and error are the best ways to go. See whats not working and where the problems are then set rules to satisfy everyone. In the beginning just maybe general safety stuff and deer restrictions
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:23 pm to 4X4DEMON
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Let me know if you decide to add any more new members. I'd like to have a place closer to my house
I think we have all we can handle now. If that changes down the road I will make a new post "Attention 4X4Demon opening at club in NWLA with a ton of rules"
I kid I kid
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:23 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Usually all that's needed is the "Golden Rule" and the "Hunting Pamphlet" and voting out the members who just won't conform.
some people are quick to make a rule to change someone's behavior when simply confronting them about it will solve the issue
Posted on 10/30/12 at 12:35 pm to thedogman
I didn't figure you'd have an opening this year. I've got a place over by Castor. It just takes forever to get there.
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