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re: Hunting arrow setup info
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:35 am to GATORGAR247
Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:35 am to GATORGAR247
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I'm currently running gold tip 300s cut to 27.5 50 grain screw in weight and 125 point. Total with knock fletching insert etc is 485 grains. I tried some 150 grain heads but they are all over the place. I don't know if I really want to go over 500. I want a reasonable trajectory. I hunt in thick places that I have to shoot through holes. Also like to shoot at least to 50 yards for elk. I'm gonna see how the griz sticks shoot but I'd really like to be close to 500 with more foc..
Try it out by getting a heavy field point pack from ethics archer, it’s the ranch fairy special. You can try a point all the way up to 300 grains without having to buy actual broadheads or changing your inserts.
You’ll be surprised how trajectory is actually affected with heavier arrows. The new boost of momentum really carries those arrows.
But everyone has their own opinions and what they feel works.
What works for me hunting squirrels, rabbits, hogs, deer, turkey, gators, bobcats, coyotes, etc. may not work for any of y’all.
I just like a super quiet bow with no vibration. It’s amazing how much those heavy arrows soak up.
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Posted on 2/8/20 at 7:39 am to Uncle Brady
Soon as my VXR comes in I’ll post pics of my arrow set up.
Thinking BLack Eagle Spartans with ethics stainless steel 100 grain insert. That’ll put me around 420 just arrow. Then I’ll test point weights from 125 up to 225. Maybe get wild and test a 300 grain point.
I shot a 730 grain arrow out of my Triax and it was hitting the target in my garage like a sledgehammer.
I’m bow less right now.
Thinking BLack Eagle Spartans with ethics stainless steel 100 grain insert. That’ll put me around 420 just arrow. Then I’ll test point weights from 125 up to 225. Maybe get wild and test a 300 grain point.
I shot a 730 grain arrow out of my Triax and it was hitting the target in my garage like a sledgehammer.
I’m bow less right now.
Posted on 2/8/20 at 10:11 pm to Uncle Brady
I just picked up a Realm X. Gonna do some tinkering as soon as I can but I’m in the process of a move. But my goodness it feels incredible.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:22 am to beHop
I picked up the Mathews TX-5 about a month ago. I went cheap on the rest just to get me through the rest of now season. When the season is up, I’m gonna be messing with arrow weights to see if I can find a happy medium between weight and speed. Only draw back I can see right now is my draw length of 26” and draw weight which is gonna be set at either 66 or 70lbs. but for a short brace height, it shoots dang good and super quiet.
Posted on 2/9/20 at 8:43 am to stamant70774
I think it would be cool to start a spreadsheet and share amongst a few of us. Sounds like some of y’all like to tinker as much as I do. I don’t get to hunt as much as I used to. But hanging out in the garage after kids are asleep can be done pretty much whenever.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:27 am to beHop
I've been following Troy for a while, and I don't even bow hunt 
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:56 am to Huntinguy
He’s a self-admitted lunatic but his information is solid. I’m envious of his situation. Unlimited amounts of hogs to shoot at for research purposes? Oh and whitetail running around too? Private ranch in Texas? Sign me up.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 11:31 pm to Uncle Brady
Bumping this back up to talk about spine in particular. I had a buddy come over to work on a couple things with his setup and we got the chrono out. For shits and giggles I put a 653 grain arrow through it at 244(!) FPS. I really like that speed. This is the Axis 300 I mentioned earlier with a Realm X in performance mode at 29.25”/71 lbs. I’m going to do my best to make it work. I don’t see why I won’t be able to get it to tune. Maybe you can enlighten me in what I should be keying on.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:33 am to beHop
How long of an arrow are you shooting? I had trouble getting 300s to fly correctly after about 500 grains.. 29.5 in draw 75 lb bow. 28 inch arrow. I just nock tuned a dozen gt hunter 250 spine cut at 29 inches. 225 grains up front.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:41 am to GATORGAR247
28" from throat
ETA: I am running wraps and a lighted nock that give me about 20 extra grains in the back to stiffen a bit.
ETA: I am running wraps and a lighted nock that give me about 20 extra grains in the back to stiffen a bit.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:01 am to GATORGAR247
Gator,
Running similar setup as you. Only difference is 29.5” and 100 gr heads but overall weight is right near yours. Seem to shoot great and penetrate great
Running similar setup as you. Only difference is 29.5” and 100 gr heads but overall weight is right near yours. Seem to shoot great and penetrate great
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:10 am to beHop
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I think it would be cool to start a spreadsheet and share amongst a few of us. Sounds like some of y’all like to tinker as much as I do. I don’t get to hunt as much as I used to. But hanging out in the garage after kids are asleep can be done pretty much whenever.
Sounds like me. I just tinker a ton when my son goes to sleep.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 11:15 am to beHop
quote:
Bumping this back up to talk about spine in particular. I had a buddy come over to work on a couple things with his setup and we got the chrono out. For shits and giggles I put a 653 grain arrow through it at 244(!) FPS. I really like that speed. This is the Axis 300 I mentioned earlier with a Realm X in performance mode at 29.25”/71 lbs. I’m going to do my best to make it work. I don’t see why I won’t be able to get it to tune. Maybe you can enlighten me in what I should be keying on.
Should tune out. Send a bareshaft at 10yards to see what is does. If its squirrely drop point weight and/or bow poundage to see if it cleans itself up. You may just need to go to a 250 spine.
For me once i get over 600 grains my arrow spine is 250. Thats out of a mathews AVS system like the Triax.
Ranch Fairy's video on testing multiple point weights on an arrow is really good. Buy you multiple points from 150grain to 300 grain to test.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 3:32 pm to Uncle Brady
I shot a bareshaft without paper last night. Shot it at 591 grains from 7 yards. Yoked tunes and micro adjusted the rest toward the riser 1/16” and it was perfect. Bumped up to 621 and got the same result. Granted I haven’t shot at distance or through paper but that 621 was damn near perfect to my eye. Chrono’d at 251 as well. I’d be tickled to death if I could make the 300 work.
And yes the bow is still in spec.
And yes the bow is still in spec.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:09 pm to beHop
Sounds like a hard hitting setup. I have an insanity cpx right now, that realm x has been calling my name
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:40 pm to beHop
I’ve been doing a lot of research and plan to swap over to a heavier arrow this summer. What FOC% are you shooting? What is optimal or “better”?
I’m looking at 500 grain total with 125 gr. fixed blade and 12% FOC
I’m looking at 500 grain total with 125 gr. fixed blade and 12% FOC
Posted on 2/13/20 at 6:56 pm to Jack Daniel
I’ve really got too much GPI for what I’m trying to do but I’m around 18% right now.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:14 pm to beHop
So you want to be higher than 18%?
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:51 pm to Jack Daniel
I ran some slow mo video tonight, and every arrow above 592 grains into the block target wobbled like crazy. So y’all were right in saying I’d have trouble beyond 600.
On that note, does anyone want or need some Axis 300s cut to 28”, nock, and insert tuned?
And yes I’m trying to get north of 19%. I was damn close but just not enough spine to get there. You’ll learn all you want to know down this rabbit hole:
Ashby’s 12 Penetration Factors
On that note, does anyone want or need some Axis 300s cut to 28”, nock, and insert tuned?
And yes I’m trying to get north of 19%. I was damn close but just not enough spine to get there. You’ll learn all you want to know down this rabbit hole:
Ashby’s 12 Penetration Factors
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:01 pm to beHop
Trying to perfect my E35 setup for this years archery elk, as well as make it harder hitting for deer and pigs.
Bought the Ethics Archery field point test kit and tried each weight. Both the 200 and 225 gr points flew well. No left and right adjustments, no excess wobble. Basically at 20 yds they hit where my 30 yd pin was set. The 250 gr and above seem to be a bit much for the arrows I have. (320 spine 6mm FMJ). Shot the 225 tipped arrows a bunch and the bow and arrow seem to be happy with it.
Previous Setup (496gr with 9.6% FOC)
28.5" 6mm FMJ 320
Easton Insert
2" Blazer vanes with R-offset
Nockturnal lighted nock
125gr head
Heavy Setup (596 gr with a 16% FOC)
28.5" 6mm FMJ 320
Easton Insert
2" Blazer vanes with R-offset
Nockturnal lighted nock
225gr head
Ordered some 225 gr Strickland Helix single bevels to try out and see how I like them.
Bought the Ethics Archery field point test kit and tried each weight. Both the 200 and 225 gr points flew well. No left and right adjustments, no excess wobble. Basically at 20 yds they hit where my 30 yd pin was set. The 250 gr and above seem to be a bit much for the arrows I have. (320 spine 6mm FMJ). Shot the 225 tipped arrows a bunch and the bow and arrow seem to be happy with it.
Previous Setup (496gr with 9.6% FOC)
28.5" 6mm FMJ 320
Easton Insert
2" Blazer vanes with R-offset
Nockturnal lighted nock
125gr head
Heavy Setup (596 gr with a 16% FOC)
28.5" 6mm FMJ 320
Easton Insert
2" Blazer vanes with R-offset
Nockturnal lighted nock
225gr head
Ordered some 225 gr Strickland Helix single bevels to try out and see how I like them.
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