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re: Harrison County, MS CWD
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:02 pm to sta4ever
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:02 pm to sta4ever
Dr. Hermann Schaetzl is part of a team of researchers that for the last 15 years has been conducting a study on whether chronic wasting disease (CWD) can be transmitted to macaque monkeys, and ostensibly to humans.
The short answer? Yes, it can.
“We can’t say how often it will happen, only that it can happen,” he said.
LINK
The short answer? Yes, it can.
“We can’t say how often it will happen, only that it can happen,” he said.
LINK
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:08 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
The incubation period in humans is decades long. Not saying there had been a jump but by and large they are not looking or trying to detect for it either.
Also there is evidence that it is starting to have herd effects in parts of SW Wisconsin. Particularly on mature buck numbers.
Also there is evidence that it is starting to have herd effects in parts of SW Wisconsin. Particularly on mature buck numbers.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:48 pm to GREENHEAD22
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The incubation period in humans is decades long. Not saying there had been a jump but by and large they are not looking or trying to detect for it either.
vCJD is scary as shite and I agree there’s next to nothing known about how these prion diseases work, but the long incubation period suggests it doesn’t have much in common with CWD.
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Also there is evidence that it is starting to have herd effects in parts of SW Wisconsin. Particularly on mature buck numbers.
This is the much bigger concern to me than it jumping to humans. Once it’s in an area, it is impossible to eliminate. It’s much more likely that it mutates to be more pathogenic towards cervids before it makes the leap to people, absent some serious frickery in the deer farming industry.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:57 pm to lsu13lsu
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Feeding needs to be banned
How this hasn't happened yet blows my mind.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:09 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Ban the feeding and shut down high fence deer pens.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:21 pm to lsu13lsu
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Feeding needs to be banned. Also, the population needs to be majorly thinned out. People are farming deer without any restrictions on herd health, size, fences, etc etc etc. Most private lands are Deer farms that are over populated. No one kills enough does.
Corn feeding/ feeders need to be outlawed. It’s unnatural and promotes disease. And not enough does are being killed.
I’m on the fence about cameras. I have six and will buy more but hunting without cameras was more fun.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:22 pm to 257WBY
I live and hunt in Lauderdale Co. Alabama which is a CWD zone. Feeding was banned 2 years ago but we have more deer this year than ever. One of our trail cams is on a licking branch and multiple deer hit that thing so I'm not sure what effect banning feeding has had. 2 years ago they extended the season a few weeks and lifted all restrictions on bag limits and a bunch were killed on public land, but I don't think many who have private land blasted everything they say. I still say Alabama did it to get Federal funding since it's still only 2 counties and supposedly 1 confirmed case in 3 years. But I've been wrong before.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:25 pm to The Levee
I would be ok with broadcasting corn. But no concentration
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:25 pm to sta4ever
You’re talking about Oneida County, NY…in the state - New York - the same one that killed off thousands of elderly during Covid due to science and you’ll believe their claims it has ELIMINATED CWD from the entire state?!?!
New York being NY
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CWD was discovered in Oneida County 18 years ago, and thanks to an intensive and comprehensive testing and culling program, the DEC and NYS Department of Agriculture managed to eliminate it. CWD has been found in 29 states but, so far, New York is the only state to have eliminated it.
New York being NY
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:25 pm to 257WBY
What’s the latest on CWD in Tensas parish? Have they found any more confirmed cases?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:33 pm to 257WBY
You say “yes it can” be transmitted to humans based on little monkeys getting it…okay…that’s being a little generous with conclusions.
Dr. Schaetzel “has participated in research and grant review activities worldwide, raised >$20,000,000 of external funding for his lab…”
$20 million is alot of incentive to keep this nonsense rolling.
Dr. Schaetzl bio
Dr. Schaetzel “has participated in research and grant review activities worldwide, raised >$20,000,000 of external funding for his lab…”
$20 million is alot of incentive to keep this nonsense rolling.
Dr. Schaetzl bio
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:47 pm to DogFacedSoldier
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Interesting how we don’t read much about EHD
Oh good grief.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 5:53 pm to 257WBY
Help me out, what’s the draw of deer farming? I know there’s a $$ component but other than high fence hunting the genetics are never passed into wild deer.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:05 pm to KemoSabe65
2 reasons
1. Farms/ ranches can charge up to $15,000 for a trophy whitetail that’s shot from a heated blind eating from a feeder he’s been eating from his entire life.
2. Big companies acquire land, build camps, hire “wildlife managers” and allow clients to go out there and do the same thing as #1 except there’s no fee for Clients 12 year old son Kaydyn to kill a deer with a rack that looks cartoonish. A moment he will surely forget.
Both scenarios require zero skill.
Both scenarios result in CWD
Both scenarios result in explosive hog populations that do billions of dollars in damage
Both scenarios never kill enough Does. It’s playing God
1. Farms/ ranches can charge up to $15,000 for a trophy whitetail that’s shot from a heated blind eating from a feeder he’s been eating from his entire life.
2. Big companies acquire land, build camps, hire “wildlife managers” and allow clients to go out there and do the same thing as #1 except there’s no fee for Clients 12 year old son Kaydyn to kill a deer with a rack that looks cartoonish. A moment he will surely forget.
Both scenarios require zero skill.
Both scenarios result in CWD
Both scenarios result in explosive hog populations that do billions of dollars in damage
Both scenarios never kill enough Does. It’s playing God
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:05 pm to KemoSabe65
quote:all about the horns and trophy. You bet your arse some of these pen deer have been released. I’d bet my 401k that’s how CWD got to Winter Nickels.
Help me out, what’s the draw of deer farming? I know there’s a $$ component but other than high fence hunting the genetics are never passed into wild deer.
Keith Warren is into it-watch a few of his YouTube vids. Some perverted shite imo but what the frick did I know.
Edit: on low fenced private lands, releasing a “huge rack” genetic strain would be an attempt to grow bigger deer and build value.
Many folks on the consumer side are completely arse over teakettle bonkers over this hunting shite. It’s crazy and sad.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:06 pm to KemoSabe65
Deer escaping high fences isn’t uncommon. Trees fall on fences.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:24 pm to DogFacedSoldier
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You say “yes it can” be transmitted to humans based on little monkeys getting it…okay…that’s being a little generous with conclusions. Dr. Schaetzel “has participated in research and grant review activities worldwide, raised >$20,000,000 of external funding for his lab…” $20 million is alot of incentive to keep this nonsense rolling. Dr. Schaetzl bio
I’m not discrediting this, but a chunk of the monkeys infected were injected with known cwd matter into their brains. The troubling part is that a few that were fed cwd venison did contract it. I’m curious what they were fed. I read this after a meateater episode with a prion researcher. Interesting stuff. Ironically it has made me more uncomfortable in dealing with squirrels.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:25 pm to bigbuckdj
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a meateater episode
Do you remember the episode number?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:36 pm to bigbuckdj
Posted on 12/1/23 at 6:36 pm to bigbuckdj
I appreciate folks being concerned and naturally, listening to info put out by “experts”…the problem is there has been NO duplication of testing and analysis after this study!!!
Don’t you think with $20 million in funds, his crew would do a separate study using similar protocols? Or anyone else for that matter?
Nope…they haven’t…here’s another NIH study contradicting that one:
NIH study on monkeys-CWD
Don’t you think with $20 million in funds, his crew would do a separate study using similar protocols? Or anyone else for that matter?
Nope…they haven’t…here’s another NIH study contradicting that one:
NIH study on monkeys-CWD
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