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Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted by meauxjeaux77
south louisiana
Member since Feb 2012
88 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:19 pm
I have an chance to purchase a Parker (Trojan)
side by side in 16 gauge.. great condition.
but not mint. I researched model and prices are
from $600 to $2500 .. no bids on Gun broker
what is a fair price to offer a friend of family?
not a huge demand for shotgun as i can tell
tks
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1919 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:55 pm to
I have my grandfathers double barrel Ithaca 16 gauge . Made in Argentina with Damascus barrels . Gunsmith said do not shoot , dangerous . Wall hanger . Not sure if this helps ?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:21 pm to
Blue Book of Gun Vales

For $2.95 you can get an idea of what the gun is worth based on condition.
Posted by 10MTNTiger
Banks of the Guadalupe
Member since Sep 2012
4139 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:27 pm to
A gun is worth what you’re willing to pay.

It’s not in high demand, 16 gauges aren’t mass produced any longer and haven’t been for decades. Ask him why he wants for it and go from there.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11494 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 11:56 pm to
Shotguns outside of very select few models don't retain value well.

1/4-1/3 retail for a mint gun usually gets it.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27191 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:47 am to
Guns International-Parker Trojan 16

It looks like they start at $1,300 in good condition. Parker Trojans are collectible. It may have 2 5/8” or 2 9/16” chambers.

If it has the shorter chambers, you can buy 2.5” rounds for it from RST if you don’t want to have the chambers lengthened to 2.75”

I’d for sure have a gunsmith check it out before shooting.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48848 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:53 am to
quote:

Shotguns outside of very select few models don't retain value well.


shite tons of them are higher than giraffe pussy, what are you talking about outside of trash guns?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48848 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:54 am to
quote:

1/4-1/3 retail for a mint gun usually gets it.


show us where you are shopping and what brand/models you are talking about.

You must be looking at junk
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1275 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:16 am to
It all boils down to how much$$ it means to you to own it. 16 ga guns aren’t that desirable no matter how high the value the blue books put on it, unless they are in mint condition with a fitted case and lots of engraving . From what you’ve told us of its condition, it’s a shooter. It should tell you something that there were no bids on gun broker.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27191 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 8:39 am to
quote:

16 ga guns aren’t that desirable no matter how high the value the blue books put on it, unless they are in mint condition with a fitted case and lots of engraving


This simply isn’t true. In old side-by-sides, the 16 is more desirable than the 12. 20’s are generally most desirable. .410 and 28’s probably fall in the same range as 16. As with any classic gun, the more fancy and frills, the higher the value.

In non-double guns, have you ever heard of the classic Browning A5 Sweet Sixteen? There’s a reason Browning still produces 16 gauge semi autos, O/U’s, and pumps. There is demand.

There’s also a whole group of people with an entire website dedicated to the 16 gauge.

16 Gauge Society

Full disclosure: I own several 16 gauges. In case you couldn’t tell.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 8:47 am
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9335 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:49 am to
12 gauges are for people who can't shoot
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27191 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:01 pm to
“Meat guns”
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2875 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:41 pm to
If you know of a good local gunsmith, have him check the condition and give you an idea of a fair value on it.

That way you have an impartial professional opinion, and no chance of hard feelings on either side with a family friend.

This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8709 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

what is a fair price to offer a friend of family?


Excellent information here on recent guns sold with details and pics. As mentioned above, some of these older damascus steel barrel shotguns are not safe to shoot with todays shells
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45797 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:00 pm to
You need to check things to know some of the condition. Take the barrels off hang the gun barrels on your finger and tap the barrels lightly. They should ring like a bell. If they don't that means there is a good chance that a rib is loose. Proper repair requires a good bit of work including rebluing of the barrels. Also check the barrel length and make sure they were not cut and look at the top lever, the farther it lays to the left the more the gun was used.

Trojan was the lowest grade of the Parkers but still a premium gun, similar quality to a Fox Sterlingworth. The Subgauge guns command a premium over 12 gauge, Depending on condition I would expect this gun to sell for $850-$1400
Posted by meauxjeaux77
south louisiana
Member since Feb 2012
88 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:10 pm to
I know the family well , I may try to sell for them
or buy it myself.. i will do more research .frame size is small locks up tight and points nice.very light. it was taken care of.tks for advice.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45797 posts
Posted on 12/10/22 at 7:15 pm to
I have the Parker book, I can look up the serial number and see how it left the factory. If they decide to sell, I have interest also.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45797 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:14 pm to
General information on the Trojan. They came in 12, 16 and 20 gauges. All came with pistol grip stocks and approximately 44k Trojan grades were made between 1912 and 1938.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5613 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 7:52 pm to
American doubles are always collectable. The smaller the gauge the more value one has particularly open choked, 26" barreled guns. 20's are most collectable here but 16's are usually more valuable than 12's. Here's a pic of my sweet sixteen my father bought new when he came home from WW2.




This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/12/22 at 8:09 pm to
Does the gun fit you properly?

Fit is most important with shotguns.
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