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re: Follow up... The bespoke double rifle...

Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:09 am to
Posted by nolaks
Member since Dec 2013
1133 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:09 am to
i'll take it when you are done hunting the buff, trade you a creedmoor
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8962 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:25 am to
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You also said 400/450 nitro. Didn't know if that was one caliber or two


The 450/400 Nitro Express is a 450NE (45cal) necked down to 400 (40cal). An early wildcat round.

It’s considered in the middle range of the rimmed big bores. Bigger than 375H&H it allows you to push 400gr bullets. From a practical standpoint; the biggest of the big bores are the 470’s and 500’s. The 470 is quite popular. The only persons carrying these 500’s are PH’s (African Outfitters) who are willing to tolerate the punishment for a “stopping rifle”.

There are 577 and 600’s too. Early black powder cartridges which are pretty much obsolete now.

In short, the 450/400 is well suited for just about any African game; but, probably considered by most to be a bit small for elephant.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11220 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:57 am to
Pretty cool, thanks for explaining.
Posted by WillyLoman
On Island Time
Member since Dec 2007
1719 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:07 am to
That is a beautiful rifle!!!

That first pic reminds me of a gun one of my uncles brought back from Germany after WWII. It was a rifle in one barrel and a shotgun in the other. Which reminds me, I need to go see that aunt....
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30369 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:39 am to
Thanks for sharing the pictures. That's very impressive. Have seen some of those big game rifles on display at Cabelas in Dallas. Only other times was when watching Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom or a movie like King Solomon's Mines.



Stewart Granger really did that kind of hunting and the rifle in the above picture was real.

quote:

August 14, 2013 STEWART GRANGER and his .577's Stewart Granger had 2 Westley Richards 577's. The rifle shown above was made originally in 1923 for Count Alfred Potocki whose uncle Joseph, was author of the very rare and desirable book 'Sport in Somaliland'. The rifle in the picture with Granger is a 577 'White Hunter' model which he bought from us on his completion of filming King Solomon's Mines. The gold inlaid animal heads which were inlaid at Granger's request represent the game he shot during his trips to Africa, the c represented 'charged'!


www.westleyrichards.com

There's a nice color picture of his broken down Wesley Richards 577 White Hunter model in the article.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:47 am to
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450/400 Nitro Express.



What are you shooting with this?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28217 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:05 am to
That rifle should come with its own car and driver.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:04 pm to
Beautiful rifle.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
2673 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:52 pm to
Damn, does that thing also function as a .410 shotgun?
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8962 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 4:32 pm to
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What are you shooting with this?


Will be taking the gun to South Africa later this month. Cape buffalo is the primary target. If opportunity presents itself we’ll use it for others too.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 6:04 pm to
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Will be taking the gun to South Africa later this month. Cape buffalo is the primary target. If opportunity presents itself we’ll use it for others too.


Figured for Africa, good luck and nice gun
Posted by Tiger4Liberty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
2423 posts
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:55 pm to
Congratulations on a fine rifle. I have been blessed enough to hunt many times throughout the Cape (Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Namibia).
I carried a Butch Searcy double rifle, with two sets of barrels chambered in 375 flanged magnum and 470 NE. I still own a 416 Rigby bolt action that I had him make for me with a Mauser action.

May you find yourself downwind of the prey you seek!
Posted by Donkeypunch
Georgia
Member since Jun 2007
1420 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 6:35 pm to
Great looking rifle. I’m sure you will enjoy many years of good service out of it. A nice double in .416 Rigby is one of the last few on my list. Hopefully I can punch the ticket soon.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 10:51 am to
While you were there, did you fondle any express rifles? A big bore Heym express has always been something I wanted to handle.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37723 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:35 am to
I’ve got 3 or 4 of those but all mine have black butt pads. I’m going to have to get one with a red one. Looks good
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
8962 posts
Posted on 6/6/21 at 8:05 pm to
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While you were there, did you fondle any express rifles? A big bore Heym express has always been something I wanted to handle.


I did, and it’s a sexy beast. Unfortunately for me; it’s only available in a right handed action.

I also really loved the SR30 with the straight pull. Fired one in 300 WM and I’ve never seen a gun outside of a semiautomatic that reloads so effortlessly.

It’s available as a lefty and I’m thinking of having one built. That darn wooden ball bolt handle just looks hideous though. LOL
This post was edited on 6/6/21 at 8:06 pm
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