re: Federal releases a new cartridge: 7mm Backcountry

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For me, it's the fact that it fricks up the ammo market.

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I don't think that's a big a factor in fricking up the market

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I don't understand why new cartridges seem to trigger people so much.

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Not really triggered just find it amusing how people gravitate to something new and totally disregard the long term impact of a fly by night cartridge when purchasing or suggesting them.
Prime example is the 350 legend, while it may be a great straight wall cartridge or primitive weapon cartridge there is no way it should be recommended over a 7-mm08 or even a 30-30 for a deer round. But yet I see or talk to people all the time that suggest a bolt action 350 legend cus the gun guy at bass pro told them it’s a superior cartridge.

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I am interested in seeing how long those barrels last.

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Why does this really matter? Less than 1% of gun owners will shoot over 1,000 rounds through their guns. Maybe certain firearms like 9mm, shotguns, and .223. But for standard bolt action hunting rifles and range guns, most guys are shooting 20 or less rounds a year.

If you are shooting 1,000 rounds a year through a gun is a new barrel price really a major cost to you?

I'm not arguing, I am honestly curious as it seems like a moot point

It does become a practical issue when it gets extreme, and the numbers they’re posting for this would imply that it’s extreme. A 28 nosler barrel can be shot out in 450 rounds. The issue is that doesn’t mean you get great accuracy for 450 shots and then on 451 it goes to shite, it means the throat of the rifle is eroding with each shot, and therefore the freebore is constantly changing, meaning what load shoots the best may change even trip to trip.

But we aren’t seeing the quantum leap from black powder to smokeless. We aren’t even seeing the jump from .30-06 to 300 WM. We’ve been seeing baby steps forward. Skeptics want to see the next BIG thing, not the baby steps.

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Truthfully, people get invested in a cartridge and just don’t want to hear a better option may have come along after they committed

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Truthfully most people can’t shoot and are looking for a cartridge to blame as their lack of or inability to kill game. They lose a deer with “insert cartridge” and their buddy who just got his new rifle in “insert new cartridge” ribs him and tells him how the “insert cartridge” ain’t shite.

I meant to comment on this thread yesterday but kept getting distracted by shite at work. But now I've had time to read about this new cartridge that's gonna solve all that's wrong with the shooting world, and all your comments as well. (I didn't know we had so many problems )

My initial thought was this is another solution in search of a problem, like the creedmore, WSMs, SAUMs, etc. BUT any industry must and will continually refine and improve. Perfect example is the decision to make a mid-engine Vette. It seems the real innovative value here is the case material and chamber design that allows higher pressures, and thus higher velocities from shorter barrels. Now you can have a barrel + can at 24" total and be able to accurately hunt long range. If I put a can on my 30 Nos, I've got a 32"-36" barrel to swing around. If it works...then it works and the case and chamber design will start a trend that will be adopted and refined further by other companies. If it dont, then it becomes another footnote like those straight-jacket barrels.

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Skeptics want to see the next BIG thing, not the baby steps.

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As long as we are flinging lead down tubes with spark ignited nitro powder, there isn't any big leap anywhere in the future.

We're literally waiting for lasers at this point.

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swamp bottom where you can't see

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Always bring more gun than you think you need. I don't need a magnum 30 to kill a whitetail. But I aint tracking one thru river bottom cockleburr thickets either.