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Extended flood effect on deer

Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:28 am
Posted by Nannyslayer
Member since Jan 2019
141 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 10:28 am
Just curious on opinions/experiences with swamp property the season after an extended flood like we have had in LA/MS. I know deer tend to naturally follow the water back down after a flood but I have also heard that if it is up an extended amount of time it takes a while for things to get back to normal.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19590 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:00 am to
A lot of people say Sherburne and the basin still hasn't fully recovered since 11. The hogs also got way worse also.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:12 am to
One big thing Ive noticed and others have consulted biologist about it and heard the same thing is the loss of your fawn crop. The stress of flooding can cause massive stress on lack of food and other issues causing your does to have miscarriages. Some folks I know with a lot of river bottom land along the Miss said they had no fawn crop one year and a biologist confirmed it. In turn, the next year they saw fawns being born in April and May instead of in the fall. After the miscarriage during the summer the doe came back into estrus around September / October
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5140 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:40 am to
many times deer in places like islands will come right back last time this happened, the folks at Giles island were real concerned but they saw many of the same bucks return after the flood


and deer in floodplains typically have later ruts (late December into January) so they will drop their fawns much later than other deer. spring is when most flooding takes place, so they have adapted to drop their fawns later (july/august) once the floods have subsided

Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5140 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 11:41 am to
disease is the main thing that should be worried about blue tongue in particular
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37743 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 12:06 pm to
We are venturing into unchartered territory with this current situation. The river has never been above flood stage for this long. Not only are the woods under water but most of ag fields the deer typically feed in are underwater. Tens of thousands of acres that usually get planted won't be planted at all due to seep water. The places along the river that are dry are incredibly over populated. Troubling times in deed for wildlife in the delta.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5140 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

troubling times


yep looking at turkey harvest numbers and tensas and Madison have dropped big time looks like another lost hatch year for them
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19266 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 1:06 pm to
I have family members on Davis Island, they swear the deer come back every year after the floods.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 1:47 pm to
There is a hunting club called catfish point in the delta. It has flooded multiple times and the deer always seem to return. It is renown for producing enormous deer... just google catfish point hunting club. Deer are smart they will adapt and so will hunters.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 1:53 pm to
I dont think anybody disputes the fact that deer will return after a flood. I think the issue here is almost 6 months of flooding over large areas and how it could disrupt the breeding cycle, diet, and herd population. When that water goes down its gonna be a dead zone for a while. Its not like those tens of thousands of deer can go back to living there immediately. just like the millions of acres of crop land someone mentioned earlier that are currently flooded but deer normally are feeding on
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37743 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 1:56 pm to
Has nothing to do with deer adapting. Has nothing to do with the deer returning when the water recedes. I hunt on the river. The deer will return when the water recedes. The concern is the effects that the prolonged flood will have on the health of the herd, especially in the short term. Disease, lack of food, loss of fawn crop etc. could have a big impact upon the deer population for a while.


ETA- what FT said
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:24 pm to
i'd be worried more about they spread of CWD because of flooding than the stress. flooding would force deer not yet exposed to CWD into another herding area that has possibly been exposed.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19590 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:55 pm to
CWD you mean?
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 2:57 pm to
yeah sorry. brainfart... long night deer in headlights by 17 innings
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

ave family members on Davis Island, they swear the deer come back every year after the floods.


They do, except this year the river will still be up when fawns drop. Mommas aren’t swimming back with babies in tow. That’s if they are even born. Like some said above, stress of the flood will cause mass miscarriages. South of Tallulah, there are still deer lined up and down the levee waiting to go back.

I hunt the land side across from Davis island and their deer always go back but circumstances are different this year. We will see.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5592 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:17 pm to
If CWD is truly in the South Mississippi Delta, all those deer bunched on the levee will share it big time. Water not coming down for a while yet. It’ll be very hard on the deer.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19590 posts
Posted on 5/23/19 at 8:29 pm to
If it's not it will be eventually. It will continue to spread until a cure is found. That is the one and only thing people are sure about it.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:55 am to
quote:

The hogs also got way worse also.


That’s everywhere. I don’t know if it’s flood related or not.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:59 am to
quote:

many times deer in places like islands will come right back
Can confirm.
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