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re: Early Spring Rattlesnake

Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16284 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:47 pm to
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I'm glad that most rattlers are polite and warn you.
saw one a few yrs ago, full grown, no rattles.
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:54 pm to
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I’m always afraid I’m going to sit right next to one in the dark turkey hunting when I’m getting set up

Not a rattle snake, but I sat down to turkey hunt and while clearing out some sticks around my feet, I saw movement. It was a Coral snake that was between me and my feet. It moved off away from me.

Once while almost finished putting my climbing stand on a tree, I spotted a Copperhead moving between my feet and the tree. I had just reached around the tree on that side, so I must have come very close to stepping on it.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted by AthensRattler
Classic City, GA
Member since Dec 2013
932 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 5:31 pm to
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What part of ONF?


Greene County. Timber rattlers are abundant in the Greene, Oglethorpe, Morgan, and Putnam parts of ONF. I’d be shocked if there was a single parcel of ONF that doesn’t have them.

The whole story with this one is the dog stepped on it right after I saw it. Stepped on it like 3 or 4 times before I grabbed the collar. Snake only flicked its tongue once lol. Kids were already back in the truck and I just had to check a few last stump holes. I didn’t realize the 60lb dog had followed me.

My kids are 3 and 7 and they stay behind dad and walk my path. Honestly the 3 year old was on my shoulders or in her moms arms most of the walk.

As some have said, the risk of snakebite is minuscule. I’ve been massively into the (NIOSH) data for school and of the 5-7k reported snakebites a year only around 2k actually involve venomous snakes. Lots of bites from nonvenomous snakes end up in the statistics just because the people sought treatment. Of the 0-10 Americans that die of a snakebite in a given year, many don’t seek treatment or have pissed the snake off so much they get a heavy dose.

My son got his first rattler at 7 months. My daughter had to wait 3 years. I’m slipping.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6915 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Of the 0-10 Americans that die of a snakebite in a given year, many don’t seek treatment or have pissed the snake off so much they get a heavy dose.


For reference, 45-50 Americans die from being struck by lightning every year.
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 6:48 pm to
rattlesnake killed my SoJourn, who was just chasing rabbits and wouldn't have given a damn about a snake; so, i kill every one of the bastards i come across; don't give a frick if they eat mice or ticks or what the hell ever; might be related to the one i'm looking for
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32248 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:23 pm to
Damn, the camouflage of that rattlesnake is incredible.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70159 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:39 pm to
What part of Redlands were you on?

Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1983 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 8:48 pm to
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Took the family... to look for snakes.


Posted by bobdylan
Cankton
Member since Aug 2018
1550 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:02 pm to
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so, i kill every one of the bastards i come across; don't give a frick if they eat mice or ticks or what the hell ever; might be related to the one i'm looking for






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That first pic of the rattlesnake terrifies me about walking in the woods with my 4 and 6 year old boys


This.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10814 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:06 pm to
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rattlesnake killed my SoJourn, who was just chasing rabbits and wouldn't have given a damn about a snake; so, i kill every one of the bastards i come across; don't give a frick if they eat mice or ticks or what the hell ever; might be related to the one i'm looking for


Yep. I kill snakes, squirrels and coyotes with a reckless abandon. I have 2 cats here on my farm so I'm not worried about mice.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70159 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:30 pm to
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I kill ... squirrels .... with a reckless abandon.


Why?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17851 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:40 pm to
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You don't go to yellowstone and kill every bear you see. Same thing.


I don’t go to Yellowstone and poke bears with a frickin stick either
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7586 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 11:12 pm to
Damn, that timber is well camouflaged!
I hit Jean Lafitte National Park today but only found 4 broad-banded water snakes and a gator. Swamp was dry and the best trails were closed.
Hitting Kisatchie National Forest and Lake Martin this week, then next week working our way through Florida down to the Everglades.
Posted by AthensRattler
Classic City, GA
Member since Dec 2013
932 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 5:02 am to
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I don’t go to Yellowstone and poke bears with a frickin stick either


I don’t ever harass these snakes in anyway (accidental trampling by my dog aside). I just take pictures. I’ve found that bugging them makes them less likely to be observed again in the same spot. Plus I like the idea of keeping my fingers out of their mouths, and don’t want to injure them in any way. All these photos were/are in situ.

For example, take these Timbers (not from National forest) from 19 Feb. I’ve seen both of them year after year for 7 years plus.

I’ve seen this female with babies before:


I’ve seen this honest 5’ male every spring and fall for 7 years:


quote:

What part of Redlands

Way north, near Oglethorpe county line.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
17940 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:23 am to
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I’ve seen this female with babies before:


quote:

I’ve seen this honest 5’ male every spring and fall for 7 years:


I get how you can tell the female when it has babies, but how do you tell male/female by just looking at them?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
54808 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:11 am to
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Took the family to look for rattlesnakes? Weirdo



Way cooler than taking your kids to Disney World, that's for sure.
Posted by Cajun367
S. Louisiana
Member since Oct 2017
1943 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:19 am to
Recently did a warranty claim on my snake proof boots. I got a credit to buy any pair on the website. I considered getting something different (regular rubber boots or insulated).

Ended up ordering the same pair.

After seeing this, I'm happy I did.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70159 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 11:45 am to
Skull Shoals Injun Mound area?
Posted by AthensRattler
Classic City, GA
Member since Dec 2013
932 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:52 pm to
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I get how you can tell the female when it has babies, but how do you tell male/female by just looking at them?


The males have longer and thicker tails after the vent (cloaca), because their hemipenes are down there. Once you’ve seen a bunch it gets easy to just eye them out.
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:42 pm to
This is as much for me as it is anyone else.

I "rescued" SoJourn from her life. A couple in an apartment had her, and she was in a kennel 23 hours a day. I think a divorce happened or something, but buddy of mine asked me to take her, because he knew I had a fenced yard and 600 acres in South Arkansas for her.

If anyone or anything on this planet was put here for one reason, SoJourn was put here to chase rabbits. She was masterful. She would run those big swampers for hours and hours and hours, coming back to camp just to eat and rest. Then, she would be off again. Now and then, she would catch one. She'd come back to camp, plop the carcass down on the ground and eat that damned thing, daring any of the much bigger dogs around to get within biting distance.

I can still see her "grinning" as we traipsed through the woods, her running alongside my four-wheeler -- that is, until she caught a whiff, and then she was off!

First thing I did when I got her was have her fixed. Cost me a lot of money, but that's OK. One of the guys in our club was a world champion beagle breeder. First time he heard SoJourn chasing, he came up to me with a handful of hundred dollar bills. Hated to tell him she couldn't have pups.

But she loved every minute of chasing those rabbits, and it made my heart proud to listen to her off in the distance.

She would come home and curl up beside me. Slept right beside my leg every night, like she knew I would protect her. Loved that little dog.

And then that god damned snake bit her.

She came up in the yard about lunch one day and was just standing over to one side. I saw her but didn't think too much of it, until I saw the look on her face. She was scared.

I didn't know what was wrong. I went to her, but she was just sort of numb. I picked her up and carried her to my camper to look her over, then I saw blood on my hand. Took a minute, but I finally found a puncture wound. At that point, I thought she had just gotten hooked on a fence or something. So, I washed her up a little, gave her some tylenol and water and let her go.

The next thing I saw broke my heart. I went to look for her a while later but couldn't find her. Movement over in a fenceline caught my attention. She was burying herself.

Grabbed her up and screamed to a vet. He said most likely a rattlesnake because a cottonmouth or copperhead wouldn't have hurt her that bad. She died that night.

So, yeah, frick every god damned snake.
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