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re: Drove 4 mid size trucks yesterday....

Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by dbllung
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
689 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:50 pm to
Those are nice! I might look into those. Would be cheaper than a Trail 4Runner that's for sure.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2238 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:53 pm to
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As for price I paid 34,5K for the V-6,Z-71 with bose/nav and donut-maker.


Good lord. For $35k you can get a 2014 Tundra, less than 10k miles, 4X4, crew cab SR5 with options.

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Here's a few examples of ten times the truck for approximately the same price:

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This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14104 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:56 pm to
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Are people really getting this off domestic full size trucks? Say a 2015 F150 lariat?


Most I've seen is $10k. That's about how much my truck was marked down.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3221 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:12 pm to
Tundra is a great truck

If I NEEDED a full size... I would have gotten a full-size

If I wanted something that got 10 mpg in town and 15mpg on the hwy I would have kept my 400 hp '72 RoadRunner that turned 11 sec 1/4 miles :)
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3221 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:13 pm to
Tundra is a great truck

If I NEEDED a full size... I would have gotten a full-size

If I wanted something that got 10 mpg in town and 15mpg on the hwy I would have kept my 400 hp '72 RoadRunner that turned 11 sec 1/4 miles :)
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2238 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:06 pm to
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If I NEEDED a full size... I would have gotten a full-size


I have no problems with this argument.

I'm more or less baffled by the manufacturers. Less raw materials. Smaller components. Lower strength parts. Etc. Same cost.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:37 pm to
Probably trying to judge what people will pay for them. Who knows the production costs of a Canyon vs Sierra? They might be around the same, and GM is trying to push people to justify spending the extra $5-10k on the 1500
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2051 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

have had a new Colorado for over 3 months now.

JMHO having owned both the Tacoma and the Colorado, both V-6,4-wheel drive versions.

If you want crappy gas mileage, a terrific engine with a chassis that is made for four wheeling go with the Taco.
Of course expect to change the water pump at 120K miles (no biggie), un-fixable driveline vibrations if you put ANYTHING larger than the stock tires on. Potential driveline shudder at low rpm that is roughly the same as driving a manual with a clutch thats gone. Oh and mileage that sucks for a V-6 vehicle, even brand new. I won't even get into the whole frame-rust issues that have been an ongoing issure for many. But resale is the best of any vehicle out there,FWIW.

With the Colorado you get a world -class interior, terrific ride (not quite as good as a full-size, but close). A gutsy engine,transmission that just needs the newest factory reflash to update the better transmission shift points. Better ride, more towing capacity and as you said before, the ability to actually park in a spot w/o packing it in like a sardine into a can.
As for mpg I get roughly 17-18 city and 24-26 highway. Thats driving 75-79 miles an hour mind you. Ain't a full-size made (except maybe the diesel Dodge) ,that will touch that.
Drove out to Texarkana from Upstate,S.Carolina Labor Day wknd. For the trip averaged 24.8mpg.
Made the same exact trip with my Tacoma back in 2010 and averaged 19.8.
5 mpg may not sound like much but thats 105 miles more range at hwy speeds.
As for price I paid 34,5K for the V-6,Z-71 with bose/nav and donut-maker.

Great info thank you!

I drive 1000 miles a month to and from work so fuel economy is a top priority,hence me looking at mid sized.

I can't find anyone that says they get 28-30 in their full size trucks. The guys at work all say get the full size as well...

By the way I have a 2008 Nissan rogue with 138k miles for sale, I will give you a great deal
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3221 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:28 pm to
If you can wait you may want to let the diesel Coloorado's/Canyon start hitting the market. There is going to be a huge buying surge on them and that may allow a better deal on the gas version.
Price difference between it and the V-6 Rado/Canyon will be about 3K, not counting any dealer attempts at upcharging for the diesel.
I'm guessing the diesel version will net about 20 in town and 30 on the hwy.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2051 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:28 pm to
They can be ordered now, none on the lots though, I thought the upcharge was 3800
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 8:32 pm
Posted by GoldenD
Katy
Member since Jan 2015
980 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:43 pm to
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Are people really getting this off domestic full size trucks? Say a 2015 F150 lariat?


It's quite possible to get a lariat for 7-10k off here in Houston. I was able to get right at 10k on my platinum off sticker with 0%/72.


quote:

I can't find anyone that says they get 28-30 in their full size trucks.


The only truck touching that is the Ram eco diesel, although I have seen people claiming in the mid 20s with the Ford 2.7l ecoboost.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2051 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:04 pm to
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quote:
Are people really getting this off domestic full size trucks? Say a 2015 F150 lariat?


Most I've seen is $10k. That's about how much my truck was marked down.


I did not see any 2016 gmc/chevy half tons trucks , they are looking to unload the old models and are willing to deal. Thought the new titans looked good.

I suppose too with the oi downturn in our area they may need to move vehicles.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
18122 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:12 pm to
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I'm more or less baffled by the manufacturers. Less raw materials. Smaller components. Lower strength parts. Etc. Same cost.


Since they sell a shite ton more of the full sized trucks, all costs (research, development, tooling the assembly line etc etc etc) gets amortized on many more units resulting in less costs per unit to manufacture.

Ever wonder why a military spec hammer costs $400 vs your basic hammer at true value?
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3221 posts
Posted on 9/28/15 at 9:17 pm to
They can be ordered now, none on the lots though, I thought the upcharge was 3800
This post was edited on 9/28 at 8:32 pm


It is, but the V-6 option is about $800 over the base so the actual difference is 3K
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:14 am to
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I did not see any 2016 gmc/chevy half tons trucks ,


woman on my facebook sells GMC at Courtesy. every post for the past 3 months have been about "fantastic" sales, deals, last day to take advantage of savings, etc.
that being said, I've never seen her post about anything LESS than 10k off sticker on a full size truck and never saw her post about anything off the Canyons. my cousin paid the same for his canyon that I paid for my 1500 and we get about the same MPG.

so take all that FWIW.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29409 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:31 am to
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2016 Nissan Frontier. Had best engine imo,low-to- no tech. Decent ride.


One of these with a bilstein andvtitan arm swap is the way to go. You can get them in the 23ish range if you buy from a volume dealer.

That v6 is a stout motor.

Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2238 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:56 am to
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Since they sell a shite ton more of the full sized trucks


Toyota sells about 20k more tacos than tundras per year baw.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2051 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:55 am to
I have received quotes from Chevy/GMC for 500 below invoice. I am leaning toward the GMC, a bit better finished on the interior.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:54 am to
Enjoy the rattle trap.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:08 am to
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If you can wait you may want to let the diesel Coloorado's/Canyon start hitting the market.


I wouldn't be surprised if the release gets pushed back thanks to VW and dieselgate
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