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Downshift's swamp navigation and sneaking aorund thread (TL;DR)

Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:38 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:38 pm
Boat's thread made me think about this. I live in the swamp and this is how I get around without getting lost. Feel free to add whatever you do. GPS's are not welcomed here.

Slipping around in the swamp is a GREAT way to kill deer in the swamp if you take the time to become proficient at it.

Alright sit down for downshift's swamp navigation 101 class...

Things you MUST have:
A good compass
A bottle of water
Hip boots (not waders unless you like busting your arse)
As much orange as you can fit on your body if public land
A cell phone
A watch
A flashlight
A roll of flaggin ribbon
Toilet paper
5 or 6 feet of small rope

Things you DON'T need:
Very heavyweight clothing (I don't care how cold it is. You will sweat.)
Extra bottle to piss in or whatever you weirdos do
Anything extra


Of course, before you go you need to review a map well to become familiar with where you will be. Plan your route on paper first, take note of any landmarks you may encounter, and establish bounderies for yourself. Remember that section lines are usually marked by blue paint on the trees. Notice what direction things like pipelines and powerlines run so that when you hit one, you can use your compass to confirm which right of way or waterway you have hit. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS pay attention to which way is the quickest way out from where you plan on walking. Look at a satillite image to take note of how the woods change.

When you leave whatever mode of transportation you used to hit your starting point, immediantly take your compass out and see which way you need to go. Tie a few pieces of flagging ribbon high around where your rig is. Pick something straight that way (an obvious tree or something) about as far as you can see. Make your way to it. When you get to it, take your compass out again and repeat. Of course, you can use the sun as a reference when it's clear, but you have to re-check it's position about every hour or so. Never rely on the sun completely. Your compass is your life. Keep it tied or pinned to you. If you loose it, head out way before dark.

Keep a mental track line in your head of where you are on the map, and where your transportation is relative to you. Notice how the woods are changing around you as you walk to keep track of where you are. Always remember that however far you go in, that's how far you have to go to get back out. If you kill something, it's got to come out with you. I hope you're capable of field dressing a deer.

Remember to travel as light as possible. The heavier you are, the more you sink (some of you sasquatch frickers don't have to worry about this part) and the quicker you'll wear out. When you get tired you get sloppy and start making tons of noise.

If you jump a deer, don't panic and shoot at the flag. It isn't going to go far. Stay where you jumped it for a little while and pay attention. Put a tree between you and whatever direction the wind is going and look mostly that way, not which way the deer went. Lots of times the deer will circle upwind of you and sneak back to try and get a look at you, especially if it's a stupid doe or young buck. If you're looking that way, you may get to see what it was. It may have been something you want to shoot. You probably won't be able to tell when you jump it.

Once you shoot a deer, DO NOT MOVE unless you can SEE the deer laying there close. This is where people always frick up. Tie flagging ribbon where you shot from, and take your compass out and see which direction the deer was when you shot it, and where it was when you last saw it. If you don't see it dead, go to where you shot it. Look for blood, bubbles, whatever. If you don't see anything, go back to where you shot from (can't do that if you don't mark where you were) and go to where you last saw it. If you walk out of sight of where you shot from, mark a place where you can see the spot from. Always be able to get back to where you shot from. Nothing burns my arse like going to help somebody find a deer, and them not being able to say where they were when they shot. The chances of finding it are close to zero.

Once you kill it, field dress it if the water is low. If the water is high, DO NOT field dress it. The deer will half-arse float with his guts in if there's enough water. If you're going to be dragging it on the ground, you want the extra weight gone. Also, you want to tie the rope around the horns (or head if, heaven forbid, it's a doe), tie the other end around a stick, and drag the deer out that way. You do not want to be holding the head up and dragging at the same time. Your back will go out very quickly unless you are the baddest SOB on earth.

It all seems simple as hell, but yall would be amazed at how many people have been hunting forever and still manage to get lost, loose deer, loose their boat, and shite like that.

Follow downshift's guide and never frick up
This post was edited on 8/15/12 at 12:00 am
Posted by W
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:41 pm to
tl;dr and it's 'lose' not 'loose'

No worries, good beta in your post.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:43 pm to
I hit submit before I got to grammar edit

Yall are gonna have to live with it
Posted by W
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:44 pm to
Again, no worries.
You're on my team when the SHTF.

#teamApocalypse

This post was edited on 8/14/12 at 8:46 pm
Posted by deaconjones35
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

It all seems simple as Hell


No it doesn't! sounds like fun but a whole lotta work!

I understand why you say to keep track of where you are. I've been lost in the regular woods and got stuck there after dark. Was not fun at all. Especially with yotes hootin and hollering within a hundred yards of me.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:46 pm to
I just watch Man vs. Wild
Posted by W
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:48 pm to
Bear Grylls ain't got shite on some southerners, FYI.

We eat everything, can build a fire out of nothing and will desicate all in range.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:48 pm to
It's not that much work. It's just being very adamate (can't figure out how to spell that damn word) about keeping track of where you are in the little world you're hunting in.

The main thing is people not marking where they were when they shot. Once you leave where you shot from, you're fricked. You'll loose sight of it, loose sight of where the deer was, and never find out where the hell any of it happened again. Your chances of finding the deer are reduced to accidentally stepping on it.
Posted by W
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:51 pm to
adamant and lose, again.



:not poopontrolling :
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:52 pm to
frick

I quit
Posted by W
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:53 pm to
The idea of flagging your shot position is news to me.
Love it, very useful.
Posted by deaconjones35
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:54 pm to
I hunted at my buddy's lease last year for the first time off Nicholson. It was the first time I hunted in heavy palmettos. Them things will mess with your mind especially if the is a wind blowing.
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:54 pm to
I was kidding, but you can learn some stuff from that show though
Posted by W
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:56 pm to
Yep, I've learned how to drink piss, eat shite and survive a British accent.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 8:58 pm to
Most people don't realize how easy it is to get lost in a swamp. It isn't uncommon to have to go call somebody out the woods.

It's some VERY rewarding hunting though. You feel so much more accomplished when it pays off.
Posted by Tiger 79
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:02 pm to
Its really easy, especially on those cloudy low cloud hangin days where you cant get ur bearings from the sun
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by MrCoachKlein
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:04 pm to
With the way shite's going these days, that might actually come in handy
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:08 pm to
A couple of things:

I never bring a flashlight in the woods because EVERYTHING looks different at night with a flashlight. It looks pretty similar with just the moonlight. Back in high school, my hunting buddies motto was, "Flashlights get you lost". I normally just bring a lighter, but walk out without any light

Things look much different on a map than in the woods. There could be a season gap between the picture and when you are in the woods. Best just get a black and white paper map with pipelines/identifying features to bring with you. Also, look at as many maps as possible to understand the area(Mapquest/Bing/Google). Get out there during the day when you have a lot of time and notice everything

Most people dont really take note of soil changes and slight changes in foliage well enough to navigate very far without a map. If they can, it is still hard to relate that to topography and position. Always pay attention

Walking in the swamp takes 15x longer than regular woods. I cant really keep track of how far I have walked in the swamp. I just get there when I get there

You can get your bearing off of a paper map. Check it when you get out there to make sure you aren't a tard. I normally get a line for the way in, and just reverse the compass around to get out, no moving it at all.

Tie flagging on branches hanging off of the trees at or just above head height. Leave probably 2-3ft hanging after the knot. It blows much better in the wind if you hang it away from the truck and it is easier to catch the movement. Any wind will make it move. You can never reasonably tie too much flagging. Put it 15ft away if you need to. Bring extra rolls because it runs out pretty quickly

There should be some type of identifying features marking property lines. Most people won't be able to see them, but pay attention.

With cell phones, I normally turn mine off and just check it periodically. Never know when you are gonna need it to be charged.

Bring lots of water(Camelback), supplies for overnighting, and toilet paper. Nobody needs a chaffed arse from not wiping properly. It hurts

quote:

I hunted at my buddy's lease last year for the first time off Nicholson. It was the first time I hunted in heavy palmettos. Them things will mess with your mind especially if the is a wind blowing.
When they get to 5 or 7ft and thick, they are absolutely exhausting to walk through. We had three guys almost passing out last time I had to walk through them in Thistlethwaite. Got to the point where we were almost jogging to get out into a field. Two of us threw up when we got to the trucks


I thought it was the funniest thing the first time I saw a deer float. It was one of those "I'll be damned" moments
This post was edited on 8/14/12 at 9:13 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/14/12 at 9:09 pm to
Yep.

Sometimes people go without a compass thinking they will use to sun, and then stay after dark, and don't know how to find the north star.

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