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re: Down sleeping bag recs

Posted on 7/24/18 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 7:14 pm to

quote:

Snow = wet, if your down gets wet you will be very, very, very cold.


Yeah but down equals warmth. You can stay dry easily in snow in comparison to rain. The guys that sleep in sub zero temps don't use synthetics
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Snow = wet, if your down gets wet you will be very, very, very cold.



If he's car camping it won't be an issue. If not, a good waterproof dry bag takes wet out of the equation. I use the sea to summit e vent bags.

I carry 3 and my tent, bag, and clothes have never been wet.

Posted by Geaux4lsu1
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/24/18 at 10:38 pm to
Check out Wiggy bags. I spent 10 days above the artic circle in one. If weight is not an issue get the full size not the mummy
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 5:55 am to
Dry bag question, I sweat in Gore Tex, how well do they breathe?

I thought the sexiness of down was weight and compactness, why would it be warmer than the best synthetics?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:02 am to
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I thought the sexiness of down was weight and compactness


And it doesnt lose its rating nearly as quickly. Synthetics and climasheild for the most part once compressed start to lose their rating from the first time and quickly from that point forward. You also need a lot of climashield to get the needed loft for good warmth once you get really cold.

Great for jackets and such, not so much for bags, IMO

quote:

Dry bag question, I sweat in Gore Tex, how well do they breathe?


If you sweat a lot, its best to use a liner and have treated down. But unless you are just raining sweat, its not going to hurt you that much
Posted by parrothead
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:31 am to
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are you bringing that to keep the bag clean, or for added warmth?


Mainly for a cleaner bag but a little warmth. If it’s hot out, skip the bag and just take a liner
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:13 pm to
Been looking at the loco libre quilts. Anything wrong with a duck down saver series?

Loco libre saver series
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:18 pm to
Nope the just use a lesser grade of down. I think 800 or something.

If you have specific questions email them. They are great. One of my underquilts is from them.
Posted by browl
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 11:45 am to
No need to split hairs on this. There are probably a thousand bags that will suffice for your excursion.

When considering temp rating, remember wind chill. Also, if it's really, like really cold, change all the way down to your skin before going to bed. Sweat moistened clothing isn't your friend when trying to keep warm.

Which would you rather? Unzipping a colder rated bag a little because you're warm, or wishing you got the colder rated bag while you try to get the feeling back in your extremities?

Remember this. Down sucks when it's wet.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:20 pm to
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the outlet page on the REI website isn't a bad place to look either.


Yeah, Sorry, but no.

LINK

They still aren't carrying Vista Outdoor brands....
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 6:28 pm to
KelTy Cosmic 20 is under $100 on Mountain Steals right now. Great value bag.
Kelty Cosmic 20
Served me well before I upgraded to Western Mountaineering.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 6:37 pm
Posted by ecb
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 9:49 pm to
Buy a cot if y’all are truck camping, it will be like sleeping at home
Posted by TheNolaClap
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:34 am to
I have a Enlightened Equipment 0 degree quilt. Lightweight, warm, well made, but not cheap. For my trip in October we are taking a pack team in so also have a heavy canvas synthetic 0 degree bag since I'm not carrying it in.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 7:38 am to
I got a surplus Italian modular bag. It was like 50 bucks and kicks arse.
Posted by Success
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:15 am to
I ended up getting a loco libre saver 10°. It was single digits most of the time we were in MT. We camped out when it got into the 30s during the day. I don’t remember how cold it was but I only froze my arse off when I would slide off the mat or if a body part was off the mat and on the ground.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:25 am to
The cold ground will suck the life out of you...


Hope you had a good trip. Some spam bot bumped this thread yesterday. They deleted his post, though
Posted by TheNolaClap
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 8:34 am to
Lol I didn't check dates from OP. I just rolled with whoever bumped it.
Posted by NOFOX
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 10:16 am to
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The cold ground will suck the life out of you...


Yep, completely miserable. I will gladly deal with carrying the extra ounces to sleep on an XL insulated pad. I have friends who just use 3 folds of a thermarest zlite under their torso. I don't know how they sleep like that.
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:19 pm to
Agree. I used a klymit insulated pad. I’m 5’6” 200lbs and it was borderline too skinny. Will definitely upgrade to a wider pad. I also need a means to keep the pad from sliding. I’d lean one way and the pad would fly out from under me the other
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 4/12/19 at 2:47 pm to
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If you’re using it in 30 degree weather I’d get a 15 degree bag


All of this, especially if you're going down over alternative.

The Nemo Sonic 0 is rated for 0 (thus the name) and sells for under $400. Probably a tweener.

Feathered Friends Swallow 20 looks to be a nice bag for the money. Under 2 pounds, rated to 20 degrees, should get it for under $450.

(ETA: didn't realize the bump, either)
This post was edited on 4/12/19 at 2:50 pm
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