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Does changing the scales on a Benchmade void the warranty?

Posted on 2/21/19 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 7:22 pm
Per their website:

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Any Benchmade knife that is modified from its original factory condition will void the Lifetime Warranty of the knife. Disassembly of any knife by any person other than Benchmade’s Warranty department.


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Do not use your new knife as a screwdriver, pry bar, chisel or punch. Do not throw your knife or use it for any purpose other than cutting. Do not disassemble your knife. Do not sharpen your knife on a power grinding wheel. Any of these acts will void your Warranty.


Changing scales is very different than opening up the lock mechanism or changing the blade...but they don’t specify. Wonder if they’d still sharpen for free. Surely.

Void / No void?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:02 pm to
I think they have bigger problems right now
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:25 pm to
There is probably loctite on the screws. I have it on every screw for my Spyderco. That's what they don't want you messing with
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 8:59 pm to
I’ll reapply loctite if there’s evidence of it. I got a blade with a Spyderco hole in it instead of the thumb studs.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18896 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:53 pm to
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Changing scales is very different than opening up the lock mechanism or changing the blade...but they don’t specify. Wonder if they’d still sharpen for free. Surely.

Void / No void?



I've sent them a 940-1 I had taken apart to have the blade resharpened, never said a word about it and they sent the knife back better than when I first got it. I doubt they'd know you had had it apart if you are careful. They give away the pocket clips and hardware so that much disassembly is allowed. Now if you sent them one wearing AWT scales, they'll probably not be happy. In fact they tell those that make aftermarket scales and are also Benchmade dealers that they cannot sell their knives already converted.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:44 am to
I bought some Wilkins scales from Germany...but you’re right, I can swap back to the OEM to ship it in. I planned on changing them occasionally anyway, I got some upgraded G10s from the factory.



Still, I think the G11 scales from Kevin will be much nicer.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 6:45 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18896 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:23 am to
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Still, I think the G11 scales from Kevin will be much nicer.


Hopefully they are at least stiffer. Allen Putman offers G10, micarta, and aluminum scales through his site, I went with Applied Weapons Technology for new scales on both of my Griptilians, the heavier aluminum really helped compared to the flimsy factory versions.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11767 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 9:26 am to
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I think they have bigger problems right now


Yeah, I am never buying one.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31318 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:37 am to
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Yeah, I am never buying one.

They helped the PD destroy guns that were scheduled to be destroyed. What’s the problem?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18896 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:40 am to
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They helped the PD destroy guns that were scheduled to be destroyed. What’s the problem?


Unless the weapons were mechanically unsafe or had defaced serial numbers, they should be turned over to an FFL to be sold to the public. There are states with laws that mandate this. It's a very bad look for Benchmade as well as the police department.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31318 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:44 am to
Confiscated weapons used in crimes? How’s that violating any 2A rights?
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We're not taking away people's guns,” Cpt. Davis said. “Some people were saying that these were gun buybacks, and we've never done a gun buyback. If we did sell a gun legally and it got into the wrong hands or it was used in a violent crime or a murder or something like that and it got traced back to us we would have to answer to the public to say you had this gun and you had an opportunity to get rid of this gun and now look what it did.”

He’s right you know, especially in Oregon. If the local libs found out the PD sold confiscated guns to general public and then one was used in a crime, holy hell.
This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 10:47 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18896 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 10:53 am to
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Confiscated weapons used in crimes?


Some of those weapons were stolen and even used in a crime (more often seized as part of a crime that didn't involve the firearm directly) there's no reason they can't be given over to FFL's. These mandatory destruction laws are just a tool used by anti-gun politicians to take weapons out of circulation, they don't serve a public safety purpose, they waste tax-payer money that could otherwise be recouped. Nobody is claiming a 2A right violation, that's a dishonest and wholly ignorant spin. The issue here is about the laws and procedures that Benchmade should have made itself clear that they disagreed with and declined to help the OCPD. Apparently Benchmade has now stated they will no longer assist the OCPD with such things going forward.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31318 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:03 am to
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there's no reason they can't be given over to FFL's.

True, but see my quote above. Surely you can understand the way this would be portrayed.
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Nobody is claiming a 2A right violation, that's a dishonest and wholly ignorant spin.

That’s kinda the entire crux of the “social media backlash” that’s taken place which I agree is dishonest and ignorant.
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The issue here is about the laws and procedures that Benchmade should have made itself clear that they disagreed with and declined to help the OCPD. Apparently Benchmade has now stated they will no longer assist the OCPD with such things going forward

Meh, they were helping out the cops which they’ve got a very good relationship with the law enforcement community. I do credit Benchmade for listening to their consumers and declining to participate in the future, but I don’t think they did anything wrong.

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:09 am to
But, but...they support Democrats.

Doesn’t bother me. I wish they’d hurry up and build my knife.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18896 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:45 am to
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True, but see my quote above. Surely you can understand the way this would be portrayed.


Unfounded and unqualified nonsense really when the firearms are turned over to FFL's. Either the background check system works or it doesn't.

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That’s kinda the entire crux of the “social media backlash” that’s taken place which I agree is dishonest and ignorant.


Spinning the backlash as if people are claiming 2nd Amendment rights are being violated is the dishonest and ignorant part. There is a 2nd Amendment issue at stake and it's where Benchmade claimed to be a strong supporter of the 2A and has shown that they have engaged in an activities that cast serious doubts on that claim.


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Meh, they were helping out the cops which they’ve got a very good relationship with the law enforcement community.


That may have been the root of their intention but they fricked up in the final analysis. Good intentions are meaningless when the net result is harmful.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22886 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Confiscated weapons used in crimes? How’s that violating any 2A rights?
Not all confiscated weapons are USED in crimes. Some are stolen and are evidence, etc.

Doesn't matter, they go into the system. They don't get returned, you have to jump through a lot of hoops to do so.
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