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re: Does a Pistol have to be broken-in

Posted on 9/4/21 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12117 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 1:24 pm to
A lot of upper end 1911's need to be broken in because they have very tight tolerances that need to be worked out. I think some 1911 manufacturers build them that way on purpose.
Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2006
1310 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 2:25 pm to
Always run a couple hundred full patch range rounds thru a new semi auto if for no other reason to become familiar with the gun. Then maybe twenty defense rounds or however many it takes to know where it hits.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25356 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

A lot of upper end 1911's need to be broken in because they have very tight tolerances that need to be worked out.


That's just nonsense, and probably something that Kimber says to explain why their $900 handgun is less reliable than a Kel-tec.
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2014
1126 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 8:05 pm to
Not the gun, but the magazine. Guns usually have a tough time cycling new mag springs if fully loaded
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27019 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

That's just nonsense, and probably something that Kimber says to explain why their $900 handgun is less reliable than a Kel-tec.


Ever held a STI, Triarc or Atlas?

Do so and get back to us.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25356 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Ever held a STI, Triarc or Atlas?


I don’t know know how many gun manufacturers there are these days but it’s a safe bet I haven’t held most of them. That doesn’t change the fact that a gun that won’t run properly out of the box isn’t “high end”, regardless of how it’s priced. Any surface smoothing or burr removal that is accomplished by shooting 500 rounds can be accomplished by a competent machinist/design specs before it’s ever fired. They just choose not to.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12117 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:32 pm to
Kimber is in fact one of the manufacturers that recommends a break in period. LINK
quote:


“Kimber 1911s are built with extremely tight tolerances,” said a Kimber spokesman. “The barrel bushing and slide have to break into one another.”

The Kimber manual explains a fairly specific process that begins with cleaning and lubricating the gun before firing 100 to 150 rounds of quality FMJ ammunition at the range. Users should then clean and lube the gun again, and continue the process until running 400 to 500 rounds through the gun.

The reason for this is the tolerances between parts, which are much tighter than the M1911A1s with which so many people are familiar. The 1911s used by U.S. troops in World War I, World War II and beyond were built for reliability on a battlefield, rather than pinpoint accuracy. They were rugged, work-horse pistols built with the best practices of the time, which earned them their iconic status. However, technology has greatly improved during the past century. Today, high-end 1911 pistols are built on state-of-the-art CNC machines with tolerances in the thousandths of an inch. The new processes make for more accurate and much tighter guns coming off the factory floor. Kimber actually mates a barrel to a slide so that the pair goes through the entire process together, with over 200 inspection points along the way.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
2649 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 11:22 pm to
Or you could just get a revolver.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
5350 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 6:07 am to
Revolver!
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
4342 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

My Kahr specifically states 200 rounds break in.

Has been awesome ever since. Even the break in was fine.


I bought a Kahr CW40 several years ago. It jammed constantly until it had about 400 rounds through it. I still never got used to the trigger. it was mushy and vague, and I could never tell where the trigger broke. I still own it, but I haven’t brought it out in well over 5 years.

That said; I probably have 10,000 rounds through a 3rd gen G19, so I’m very used to that trigger. I’ve owned several Glocks, Sigs, berettas and others. No break in or jamming issues with any of them; just that Kahr.

Long story short, if you’re going to rely on it, shoot it often and shoot what works best for you.
Posted by Tic44
Neville
Member since May 2015
1695 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 7:44 am to
Shoot 150-200 rounds of FMJ practice ammo.

Then shoot one magazine of the self defense ammo of you choice without cleaning the weapon.

If it runs the self defense ammo while dirty, it'll run it clean
Posted by bong lord
Zapata, AL
Member since Sep 2019
25 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:51 am to
Most semi's need a good cleaning out of the box. They are shipped with too much grease in them to prevent moisture build up/rust etc.
Take it apart.....wipe it down.....add some quality lube/grease at metal to metal contact points......shoot 2 or 3 boxes of ammo through it to get a feel for the trigger and get it hot.
Enjoy.
Posted by PutTheWomacOnEm01
Member since Nov 2019
267 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 9:13 am to
At least one desk pop and you should be good.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 1:02 pm to
From Kahr Owner's Manual
KAHR BREAK-IN PERIOD
The KAHR Pistol must run through an initial
break-in period before achieving fully reliable
feeding and functioning. The pistol should not
be considered fully reliable until after it has fired
200 rounds.


From another forum:
LES BAER BREAK-IN
Les Baer calls for a 500 round break in period. But I don't recall anyone disparaging Baer because of that. Guns built to tight tolerances simply require more break in to get them functioning at peak performance


Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10451 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 2:38 pm to
Like others have posted, it's a little crazy to buy a pistol and not test out is shooting characteristics especially if it is for protection. I have a gen 4 Glock 23 .40 cal that was new and had been sitting around in a case for over a year. It comes with factory copper lube in high wear areas that is to be left in place but I did apply a light amount of lube in other areas. Took it to the range a few weeks ago and soon found out the grip needed to control muzzle flip for accuracy especially shooting 180 grain, and how crappy the long pull trigger was. Put 400 rounds through it in 2 visits, but 200 was probably enough or less.

Bought a new Walther PDQ M2 Tac 9mm 3 weeks ago and manual said to lube before shooting. The magazines for the Walther are super tight, put 150 rounds through it and it ran so smooth I doubt it needed more than 40 and the trigger pull is very short which is something I like to know if using for a carry. Used 2 magazines, they are still tight as hell. Ordered a different recoil spring for the Glock to see what effect that will have, but likely going to trade it for a Walther .40 due to how much better I like the Tac trigger/action. Neither pistol misfired. Things you learn "breaking in" pistols, that and Winchester white box ammo runs dirty.
Posted by tigerbadbob
Arkansas, side of a mountain
Member since Aug 2016
49 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 8:35 pm to
Huh, something wrong with my Kimber, has always run good. here's some advice, don't be a limp wrist
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
5539 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:34 pm to
Ever since the Gen 1 Glock 17's I've always run 500 rounds through new Glocks. Cleans them up and makes them much less likely to stovepipe if you have to limp wrist it. After 500 you can do pretty much anything to them and they keep shooting.
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