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Crisis Generator questions.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:28 am
Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:28 am
I have some questions.
When it really hits the fan on day ( not saying this is it) I just want to run my refrigerators and one power strip.....and not the whole house.
I’m talking bout two weeks or longer.
I assume that’s a good play.
Anyone that had any experience with Katrina, I would love to hear your opinion on all things Generators.
Like how much gas.
Where tk keep it.
Quiet vs loud (cost Honda vs Harbor Freight)
ETA.
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I will update with all ideas here.
When it really hits the fan on day ( not saying this is it) I just want to run my refrigerators and one power strip.....and not the whole house.
I’m talking bout two weeks or longer.
I assume that’s a good play.
Anyone that had any experience with Katrina, I would love to hear your opinion on all things Generators.
Like how much gas.
Where tk keep it.
Quiet vs loud (cost Honda vs Harbor Freight)
ETA.
————————
I will update with all ideas here.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:52 am to dstone12
I don't know about the good play part. If it really hits the fan, you're not going to be able buy gasoline for very long.
But to your gen/gas issue: I used a generator to run my frig's for about 6 days after one of those hurricanes. I don't recall exactly, but seems like it was about 5 gallons per day, maybe a little more.
I had 6-7 five gallon cans. Safely storing is another thing. I stored them in my garage, and tried to run them out quickly after an "emergency situation." Having that much flammable product in my garage (house) doesn't seem smart.
It's a good solution for a week or two. Best of luck on your plans.
Obviously, if available, a natural gas generator would eliminate these particular issues.
But to your gen/gas issue: I used a generator to run my frig's for about 6 days after one of those hurricanes. I don't recall exactly, but seems like it was about 5 gallons per day, maybe a little more.
I had 6-7 five gallon cans. Safely storing is another thing. I stored them in my garage, and tried to run them out quickly after an "emergency situation." Having that much flammable product in my garage (house) doesn't seem smart.
It's a good solution for a week or two. Best of luck on your plans.
Obviously, if available, a natural gas generator would eliminate these particular issues.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 8:57 am to dstone12
I’m gonna fill the boat today, will have 62 gallons (just in case). I highly suggest a brand name 5K watt gen (they are less expensive but noisy) and a manual transfer switch (Lowe’s or HD has them). They wire into you house system and allow you to safely run things like lights, ceiling fans, TV, etc. without extension cords. My 2 cents
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:04 am to dstone12
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Quiet vs loud
This is a biggie in your scerario because if the shite really has hit the fan those of us who hoard nothing but ammo will be paying special notice to the sound of generators. You would be better off with a propane reridgerator and solar power.
If you just mean being briefly inconvenienced by a lack of power anything will do what you want as long as it is over 3500 watts, I suggest LPG powered as there are less storage issues with the fuel.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:30 am to dstone12
I have a 7k that will run necessary stuff in my house but drinks about 8 gallons of gas every 12 hours. I have a 3K inverter that used 2 gallons every 10 on full load. It will run fridge a small ac unit, and some fans
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:08 am to dstone12
After Michael I ran a 7500kw wired into my house for about 3 weeks. I have a well and those pumps have a big start-up load, hence the size. But that size also allowed me to run the washer/dryer, which was HUGE. We did a lot of laundry and supplied showers for the neighbors. It even the water heater if I turned most other stuff off. We had an outdoor kitchen setup with camping gear/propane; running an electric stove/oven isn't practical on a portable generator. Anyway, stuff I learned:
- you don't need to run it 24/7. We'd run it partially during the day and hardly ever at night. Refrigerators/freezers will do fine overnight, especially if they're largely full
- due to that, gas went farther than we thought
- I'm not in a metro area and I wasn't concerned about roaming shitheads
- if you're concerned about roaming shitheads noise isn't your problem, turning on the lights at night is
If all you want is to run a couple of refrigerators and the lights, just get one of the smaller inverter types. When competitive units were 75% the cost of a Honda, the Honda was probably the better buy. Now they're a fraction of the cost and they've been around long enough to amass ratings so you can make an educated buy.
I'd look at Harbor Freight (whatever their nicer brand is), Champion, Wen, Generac, etc. Mine's a Champion and it was flawless but it's not an inverter type.
- you don't need to run it 24/7. We'd run it partially during the day and hardly ever at night. Refrigerators/freezers will do fine overnight, especially if they're largely full
- due to that, gas went farther than we thought
- I'm not in a metro area and I wasn't concerned about roaming shitheads
- if you're concerned about roaming shitheads noise isn't your problem, turning on the lights at night is
If all you want is to run a couple of refrigerators and the lights, just get one of the smaller inverter types. When competitive units were 75% the cost of a Honda, the Honda was probably the better buy. Now they're a fraction of the cost and they've been around long enough to amass ratings so you can make an educated buy.
I'd look at Harbor Freight (whatever their nicer brand is), Champion, Wen, Generac, etc. Mine's a Champion and it was flawless but it's not an inverter type.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 11:30 am to dstone12
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Quiet vs loud (cost Honda vs Harbor Freight)
Just get a 7kW or so Predator from HF, they are far closer in dB than you think. Get a 5-gallon Eagle or Justrite safety can, Stabil 360, and 93-oct fuel (higher octane has a little bit more storage life than 87), and some good 12- to 10-AWG extension cords. My generator has a gallon of 4-cycle trufuel and synthetic 10W-30, I test run it every six months or so and if needed I can have it out and running the appliances I need in 10 minutes. With the heavy-duty 240V cable I made it's far enough from the house that noise isn't an issue. This isn't something that needs a whole lot of thinking or investment to just cover the basics. I store mine in my shop with an OEM cover, which is definitely something you want for any generator.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 12:01 pm to dstone12
Buy a Honda
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 6:55 pm to dstone12
for all real practical purposes you cant store enough gas for more then a few days unless you have underground storage tanks like gas stations do
best bet is natural gas generators, the natural gas lines should remain useful and have line pressure for weeks and maybe even a month or so.
for the most part, anything needing refrigeration isn't something you should have on hand. stick to canned and dried goods that have a very long shelf life at room temps
best bet is natural gas generators, the natural gas lines should remain useful and have line pressure for weeks and maybe even a month or so.
for the most part, anything needing refrigeration isn't something you should have on hand. stick to canned and dried goods that have a very long shelf life at room temps
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 3/14/20 at 7:18 pm to keakar
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for all real practical purposes you can store enough gas for more then a few days unless you have underground storage tanks like gas stations do
I'm assuming that you meant to say "can't store enough gas".
This just isn't true, especially for a small 2kw inverter generator. It does take space; I had a family member bring about twenty 5 & 6 gallon full jugs 2 days after the storm. It lasted for about 3 weeks until we got power, and I think I had 1 or 2 that still had fuel. Like I said, you don't have to run it all day and we didn't run ours at all after we went to bed. And I was running a lot larger/less efficient generator than what he's talking about.
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:56 pm to Flats
And use non-ethanol gas. Keep a few cans of Sea Foam to add to gas. Makes a world of difference in those small engines
Posted on 3/14/20 at 10:17 pm to mallardhank
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And use non-ethanol gas. Keep a few cans of Sea Foam to add to gas. Makes a world of difference in those small engines
Liquid gold, especially in two strokes.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:24 am to dstone12
Check out the Dual Fuel Champion 3500 watt. Sams club regularly has them for $350. You can use propane or gas.
We have 2 of the regular gas only models and they start 1st pull and mine is probably 7 years old and my dad’s maybe 10.
3500 watts is plenty for what you say you need and they will run for close to 10 hours on a tank of 3 1/2 gallons. We’ve used them around the clock during power outages and at hunting camp for years running campers. They are not super quiet but are not as loud as some that are around.
We have 2 of the regular gas only models and they start 1st pull and mine is probably 7 years old and my dad’s maybe 10.
3500 watts is plenty for what you say you need and they will run for close to 10 hours on a tank of 3 1/2 gallons. We’ve used them around the clock during power outages and at hunting camp for years running campers. They are not super quiet but are not as loud as some that are around.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:29 am to mallardhank
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Sea foam
I ran this through my two stroke blower after it wouldn’t start for a year.
I kept pulling the cord until finally it started.
The sea foam pcv trick is fun too.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 8:59 pm to dstone12
Gasoline can be stored long term if done properly, long term being a year or more. I have used gasoline in my generator and lawn mower that was over 2 years I old with no problem. Gasoline goes bad due to the evaporation of soluble butanes which happens if the gasoline is allowed to contact air, and is why gas in mowers and generators goes bad, they have vented fuel tanks. Gas stored in a sealed container will remain useable for a long time.
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