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Coming storm surge to push river levels up 2 to 3 feet

Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7075 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 9:30 am
And the Army Corps of Engineers are already trying to cover their butts.

“We have had high/water events in hurricane season but we’ve never had an elevation forecast like this”

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Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22171 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:13 am to
I wish I still had my oh-noz gif. Nothing gonna happen
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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75703 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:13 am to
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:33 am to
Certainly not wishing flooding on anyone (including myself, ha), but the Lake P basin could reallllly use a saltwater influx.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30555 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:48 am to
It's a safe wager that somewhere below NOLA, southbound river water could collide with north bound storm surge and create another "mardi gras gap" in a the smaller levees in plaquemines parish - long before the levee would be overtopped in NOLA.

Those levees have been saturated for a looooong time now.. .they are built for smooth flowing south bound water - not roiling swirling colliding flowages.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 10:52 am to
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storm surge to push river levels up 2 to 3 feet


This is exactly what we need to flush out all this damn freshwater that has taken over our former brackish areas in the East delta, Biloxi marsh areas.... Need more saltwater mixing to foster those damn fish populations.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 11:01 am to
quote:

This is exactly what we need to flush out all this damn freshwater that has taken over our former brackish areas in the East delta, Biloxi marsh areas.... Need more saltwater mixing to foster those damn fish populations.


you mean areas that were freshwater estuaries 50-100 years ago?


but muh fishing!!!


and im an avid fisherman.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 11:30 am to
Yeah dude. Muh fishing. And muh ecosystem that is currently being destroyed by algae bloom and fertilizer.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:11 pm to
Fertilizer... my lord
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:43 pm to
They're red buttons. Obvious answer is to hit em both
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:50 pm to
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jimbeam


You guys act like these are mutually exclusive concepts. I’ve literally exhausted myself debating with down the road people about why the reversion back to the freshwater norm/diversions are necessary for the future of our state. My comment earlier had absolutely nothing to do with that.

The Lake P basin could use an influx of saltwater right now for reasons other than “muh stupid online trigger word.”

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Fertilizer... my lord


Nitrogen and phosphorus don’t act as fertilizers?
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 1:00 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

I’ve literally exhausted myself debating with down the road people about why the reversion back to the freshwater norm/diversions are necessary for the future of our state.
I think we’re on the same team here man
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:57 pm to
I know, and from previous posts I’ve gathered that. I just thought you guys took my original post in this thread as something to the contrary.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 12:59 pm to
Not at all.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17319 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:23 pm to
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And muh ecosystem that is currently being destroyed by algae bloom and fertilizer.




Not trying to start a big argument but the ecosystem was first destroyed by saltwater intrusion and is still currently being. That the freshwater contains fertilizer runoff is a different issue with a different solution from just totally denouncing diversions. Unless I'm just completely ignorant in my understanding more and strategic diversions will be better for fishing in the long run by making these spillway openings less frequent, preventing the huge deluge of freshwater all at once that leads to issues.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19603 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:24 pm to
Meh, before mans intervention they were brackish estuaries, not freshwater. The river use to have multiple outlets upstream of the mouth and would get out of its banks in lots of areas. The amount of flow at the mouth now is substantially more than before.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Not trying to start a big argument but the ecosystem was first destroyed by saltwater intrusion and is still currently being. That the freshwater contains fertilizer runoff is a different issue with a different solution from just totally denouncing diversions. Unless I'm just completely ignorant in my understanding more and strategic diversions will be better for fishing in the long run by making these spillway openings less frequent, preventing the huge deluge of freshwater all at once that leads to issues.



I agree, and do not denounce diversions at all. Quite the opposite actually. I was just referring to the issue that Lake P specifically is facing currently, which is just because of the spillway opening.

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Meh, before mans intervention they were brackish estuaries, not freshwater. The river use to have multiple outlets upstream of the mouth and would get out of its banks in lots of areas. The amount of flow at the mouth now is substantially more than before.


Agreed. I understand the logic of "well we need to go back to freshwater because that's the way it was before," and to a certain extent I agree with that, but a whole lot has changed since the time of "the way it was before." Man has done a lot of irreversible things to the flow to the Mississippi River that make a practical solution to this overall problem (the state's land loss as a whole - not the current Lake P problem) possibly nonexistent.
This post was edited on 7/10/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31049 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:30 pm to
Should have opened the Morganza.
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1721 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 1:45 pm to
The coming surge is just what we need to get muh fish in the boat. The rents’ house in Oak Harbor has had some very low water the last couple of weeks so the surge should do what we all want, bring salinity levels up and get rid of this god awful algae bloom.

August could shape up to be near normal trout levels.
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