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re: Can Polymer 1911s find a niche in today's market?

Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:25 pm to
I'd buy that second one....
Posted by NimbleCat
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:27 pm to
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Projected cost?


This is going to be the Lynchpin of the whole endeavor. If the price point falls in with the Glocks and XD crowd....look out.

The RRA website does not give price quotes yet. This leads me to believe that it will not be a "Bargain" 1911. Common sense tells me that it has to come in below the Ruger SR1911 or they are missing their market.
Posted by TexasTiger
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:29 pm to
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The RRA website does not give price quotes yet.


i would think it would have to come in under their regular 1911 prices.

Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:29 pm to
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Common sense tells me that it has to come in below the Ruger SR1911 or they are missing their market.



Because polymer guns are cheap? Someone forgot to tell HK because my P2000 was way more than that SR1911.
Posted by TexasTiger
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:31 pm to
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Posted by NimbleCat
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:31 pm to
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Because polymer guns are cheap?

Cheaper than Steel? Yes.

Your HK is "Top of the Line" for a Polymer pistol. HK is the "Elite" brand for polymers...

Now, take your "Elite" Polymer price point and compare it to an "Elite" 1911...
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:44 pm to
I'd think it comes down to the number of parts and the tolerances the manufacturer chooses to set for them...then marketing.

That said, I bought a compact duty weapon and a relatively cheap HK. HK makes pistols that rival the most expensive 1911s without a shiny part on them...polymer doesn't make a damn difference in the price.



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polymer doesn't make a damn difference in the price


Well holy shite, people pay $4k for a 1911...Guess I was wrong.


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Panco Villa death mask wow
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by NimbleCat
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:50 pm to
So,
quote:

polymer doesn't make a damn difference in the price.


Where do you think the price point for the RRA 1911 will fall?

I stand behind the belief that a person that wants a 1911 priced in the 1K range will not consider a Polymer 1911. There are too many options on the table at the 1K mark.

Why make a 1911 in polymer if not to compete for the absurd market share of the 500-625 range of polymer pistols out there?

Obligatory Insult: And your Mark 23 HK is closer to holding a brick than a Glock ever could be...
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:51 pm to
Glad to see your edit - which shows you did some research.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 2:52 pm to
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Well holy shite, people pay $4k for a 1911...Guess I was wrong.

My FIL paid a lot more for a WC 1911. It is heads and shoulders above any HK I have ever shot. Granted, it cost 3-4x more too.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:04 pm to
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if not to compete for the absurd market share of the 500-625 range of polymer pistols out there?


Polymer is not why there's an absurd market for 500-650 pistols, it's because people are willing to buy subcompacts like there's no tomorrow. I don't understand it, but the majority of sales in that range are pocket pistols (I just made that up). The inherently inaccurate barrel length makes them not GAF about the component tolerances, or durable materials, as much (I made that up as well).
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:15 pm to
I'm headed off to look for a mindblown gif
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:19 pm to
It might have come off as being a prick but its not my money by any means. I just had the pleasure of shooting it.




Actually, its not the tactical supergrade. Its the classic supergrade. This is the exact pistol but his is .45 and not 9mm.

This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:22 pm to
That deer one comes to mind...
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:25 pm to
My bad. I wasn't referring to you. I was agreeing with your assessment of the above-listed "theories".
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:25 pm to
an unreliable gun that looks and feels cheap? No thanks.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:27 pm to


Its also very easy to see how your comment would apply to a 5k 1911 too.

If the OB wants to get together and buy one as a group, Ill keep it safe.
Posted by Judge Smails
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

If the OB wants to get together and buy one as a group, Ill keep it safe.


I got five on it
Posted by CBLSU316
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 3:43 pm to
I came I here and immediately started scrolling for KingRanch's response................2 pages in and SOB hasn't made it into a 1911 thread.

Someone better check on him, he may be dead.
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