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re: Buying a used diesel truck: what should I know?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
GM had some fantastic diesels back in the day.
The 5.7, 6.2, and 6.5 were not included in that statement.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:48 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
So do you 6 liter fans actually own and drive a 6 liter?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 9:49 pm to highcotton2
quote:those old ones wouldn’t pull the hat off your had.....when they ran.
The 5.7, 6.2, and 6.5 were not included in that statement.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:02 pm to White Bear
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those old ones wouldn’t pull the hat off your had.....when they ran.
They would get my vote for the worst modern small truck Diesel engines ever made followed closely by the Navistar 6.0 and 6.4. Every one of those engines had fuel delivery system problems. Especially the 6.4
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:04 pm to highcotton2
Gm built lots of big diesels (all of the detroits) that were spectacular. Saying GM shouldnt be in the diesel business is asinine.
And no I have not owned a 6.0. I know lots of people who have, and I am vaguely familiar with the diesel engine market in general. Compared to the 7.3 yes they are poo. The 6.0 was revolutionary at its release and these days is a good bargain. Brand new it was horrible.
OP is not looking to spend 40k on a brand new 6.0. Hes looking for a good value pulling truck. The 6.0 in 2019 is perfect for that and arguably the best option out there.
And no I have not owned a 6.0. I know lots of people who have, and I am vaguely familiar with the diesel engine market in general. Compared to the 7.3 yes they are poo. The 6.0 was revolutionary at its release and these days is a good bargain. Brand new it was horrible.
OP is not looking to spend 40k on a brand new 6.0. Hes looking for a good value pulling truck. The 6.0 in 2019 is perfect for that and arguably the best option out there.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:20 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I got a bulletproofed 6.0 with 225k miles on it... still pulling strong
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:23 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I think I am going to bow out of this thread because my blood pressure is fixin to blow my pop off valve thinking about some of the shitty diesel trucks I have been around in my life.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 10:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I've only driven the old 6.5, and that engine was a dog. It could barely move the trucks it was in
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The OP didnt put it in this thread but in another he stated he would need to tow a tractor 5 times a year. Didint give the distance or exact size of the tractor but 100hp was thrown out. That size tractor with trailer would be right at the listed max for 3/4 ton gassers but if not going far I said he should be good.
DWNSFT what are your thoughts?
DWNSFT what are your thoughts?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 11:40 pm to Masterag
Any thoughts on a 97 Ford F250 HD 7.3?
I don't know shite about trucks but have always thought that body style was a classic and a few minutes of research earlier today (I was fantasizing about my dream "modern classic" garage ) led me to believe that this was a solid truck. $5k-$15k depending on mileage.
I don't know shite about trucks but have always thought that body style was a classic and a few minutes of research earlier today (I was fantasizing about my dream "modern classic" garage ) led me to believe that this was a solid truck. $5k-$15k depending on mileage.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:57 am to thejudge
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What are you pulling OP?
Largest thing would be a 100 hp tractor with bush hog and FEL, but only a few times per year.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:59 am to IllegalPete
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thoughts on a 97 Ford F250 HD 7.3?
I’d drive one
Posted on 5/16/19 at 5:58 am to GREENHEAD22
A 1 ton gasser should be an option. Much cheaper and much less bullshite. Itll pull that comfortably. Itll be thirsty doing it but if you're not doing it for 30k miles a year it wont matter.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:18 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Hell I didn't think they still made 1ton gasses.
After a little research I see Ford is coming out with a 7.3 and GM a 6.6 gas motor.
Interesting to see them going away from the reliable 6.0
After a little research I see Ford is coming out with a 7.3 and GM a 6.6 gas motor.
Interesting to see them going away from the reliable 6.0
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 6:24 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:41 am to Masterag
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Largest thing would be a 100 hp tractor with bush hog and FEL, but only a few times per year.
If you are doing this in flat land Texas, id absolutely just get a gasser. Your mileage will be horrible when pulling but everything else will be cheaper and easier.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 6:42 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:45 am to GREENHEAD22
Kind upset that I bought a 6.2 gasser and theyll have a 7.3 out soon. I'd have loved to have that instead, its going to be a pushrod engine. The 6.2 is great but the 7.3 is going to be more betterrer.
Lots of fleets arent buying diesels anymore because they cost too much and the 7.3 should give better life and loaded fuel mileage than the 6.2
Lots of fleets arent buying diesels anymore because they cost too much and the 7.3 should give better life and loaded fuel mileage than the 6.2
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:52 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
You know anything about the 6.6 coming out. I know it won't have a lot of the fuel saving BS computer stuff most have now. Dropping cylinders etc.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:57 am to GREENHEAD22
I think it's been around for a while in Van's and shite. I wouldnt hesititate to buy one.
Hate to see the 6.0 go away but it's time. It's a dinosaur and while it is reliable the new generation engines are making more power and burning less gas doing it. My current truck ( f250 4x4 with 4.30 gears) is at 15mpg lifetime average. Pulling a 24' boat back from Texas I averaged 11.5mpg. On my commute it gets close to 17.
My old 6.0 Chevy got 12mpg normal driving and would be 9ish pulling that boat. It never sniffed anything close to 15mpg.
Eta: OP said he wanted a diesel so that's why I wasn't on my "dont buy a diesel" horse. The 6.0 is a good option. Lots of used duramaxes out there that are reasonable as well. The Dodges seem to be overpriced to me becuase they have the 5.9, just like the Ford 7.3's are grossly overpriced.
Hate to see the 6.0 go away but it's time. It's a dinosaur and while it is reliable the new generation engines are making more power and burning less gas doing it. My current truck ( f250 4x4 with 4.30 gears) is at 15mpg lifetime average. Pulling a 24' boat back from Texas I averaged 11.5mpg. On my commute it gets close to 17.
My old 6.0 Chevy got 12mpg normal driving and would be 9ish pulling that boat. It never sniffed anything close to 15mpg.
Eta: OP said he wanted a diesel so that's why I wasn't on my "dont buy a diesel" horse. The 6.0 is a good option. Lots of used duramaxes out there that are reasonable as well. The Dodges seem to be overpriced to me becuase they have the 5.9, just like the Ford 7.3's are grossly overpriced.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 7:00 am
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:01 am to cave canem
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Nope I stand by my statement.
If unmolested by the owner they are great engines with a few small upgrades.
Those "few small upgrades" usually run about $7,000.00 when you get through with it. BTW, that is about the same cost to create a "Fummins" truck.
I have a 12v Cummins and have been searching for a decent F250 with a blown up 6.4.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:07 am to White Bear
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So do you 6 liter fans actually own and drive a 6 liter?
Not a fan but yes and yes
I own 3 of them and have had very few issues.
They are great deals simply because everyone believes the internet nonsense, not claiming they are the greatest ever, just the bang for the buck is hard to beat.
There are some issues but they are very easily dealt with.
The biggest issue was Ford never envisioned folks trying to add 200+ hp through tuners and the engine was not designed for it, head bolts just can not deal with those pressure levels, unmolested they are decent workhorses.
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