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re: Buying a handgun

Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:12 pm to
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Your definitions are meaningless and make no sense. They make no difference whatsoever in these discussions. They are useful to show how much of an arrogant prick you are though.


Please excuse the numbering system. But it's the only way I keep track of the plethora of asinine comments.

1. Those are not "my" definitions. As has been noted, you're the guy making up definitions. The terms I use are used by manufacturers and gunsmiths (i.e. people with experience), none of whom uses your "second strike" definition.

2. Is "arrogant prick" better than or worse than "frickstick'?

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Sweet. A man who uses a numbered list with the same lack of point in each is going there.

Look. You're just not very smart. You've gone a long ways with guns and should be applauded for that. Here is just some guy who has never even shot any of these guns getting you so say ridiculous things. You're debating someone who has fired a pistol twice


You seem to be missing the irony here.

1. You're the guy wanting to debate a topic about which you have admitted you know nothing..

2. If you've fired pistols only twice, what on earth qualifies you to render opinions on, and argue ad nauseam on, issues about which you admittedly have no knowledge or experience? Maybe instead of playing "debate boy" you will answer this question.

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The funniest part is, you don't even recognize the problem of classifying the "safe action". You act like there is some sort of coscensus. Yes, you're a frickstick.


1. "Safe Action" is a marketing term introduced by Glock.

2. Yes, there is consensus among those who have knowledge of and understand firearms.

3. Is "frickstick" better than or worse than "shite head"?

Please understand that I don't care (and presume that very few others do) what gun you buy. If you were to make a lousy and/or uninformed choice, that would fall under the heading of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

I guess one of my many failings is to be concerned when the blind want to lead the blind in matters that relate to personal defense. The consequences to those whom you wish to lead might be severe.

I will admit to having difficulty in determining when you are posting childish opinions just to stir people up, and when you are posting dumb things you really believe. Unfortunately, the folks who might attach some significance to your opinions might have the same problem. (after all, as you acknowledged, your "high post count" is awfully misleading when you post on topics about which you know little or nothing.)

It's obvious that you enjoy your role as a keyboard commando. So, in an effort to avoid curtailing your pleasure, I'll try to refrain from "feeding the troll" when I read your "gun expert" posts -- especially when I can ascertain that you are just, in essence, just amusing yourself when you post uninformed opinions.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:19 pm to
Here's somethings you can do.

First, actually say something. In the 100s of words you've typed, you've said nothing of classification of actions. After explaining it to those of us who don't know better, then go to wiki and change the page on triggers that says,

quote:

Glock and Kahr semi-automatic pistols are not DA (or DAO) pistols because the striker is "cocked" to an intermediate position by the operation of the slide and they cannot be re-activated by pulling the trigger a second time.


Once you've done that and included your most excellent reasoning on why the "safe Action" is double action and mentioning double strike 40 times, then you can come back here and ridicule me some more for actually mentioning wiki, since we all know it's worthless and should never be used.

Then we can move on to something actually important to someone's decision on buying a handgun.

frickstick.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22764 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:34 pm to
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Hmmmm.... This thread again and again and again and again and again and again and again


But they always end in a bang.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86410 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:39 pm to
I need a kayak...
Posted by Whiskey Richard
Member since May 2011
5924 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:40 pm to
Has this thread gone enough pages to put in the OB guide. The. We can just revert the weekly handgun purchaser to the sticky.

#no offense to the OP
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70972 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:43 pm to
I hate missing cool shite
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61728 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

the OP

should get a 1911
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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70972 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:47 pm to
You weren't here when I was talking about how I would never carry a 1911
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61728 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

I would never carry a 1911

i carry one everyday as my CCW
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:50 pm to
I'm thinking really hard about doing the CCW thing over the summer. I'd do that and buy a keltec pf-9. At least for now.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61728 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:52 pm to
WANT


This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 8:52 pm
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33501 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 8:54 pm to
I would just buy a full auto uzi with a silencer. I mean shite, might as well unload peacefully right?

FWIW, I didnt read the thread at all.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70972 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

I'm thinking really hard about doing the CCW thing over the summer.


Same here. I think I'd get a ruger SP-101 though.

Thought I wanted an LCR until I picked one up. Do not want to shoot.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60679 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

1. You seem to be all wrapped around the axle about "pulling the trigger again after a misfire." You also somehow, for some inexplicable reason, use "second strike capability" to define "double action."

2. I guess it goes without saying (but perhaps it bears noting) that a high post count does not equate to expertise. I'm sure you are knowledgeable about many things, but self defense handguns obviously isn't one of them.

3. If pulling the trigger were the proper course of action following a misfire, there are a lot of training academies around this country that could use your guidance. I can think of a dozen, off the top of my head, that are (according to your procedure) teaching it wrong.


1. 2.& 3. What does any of the above have to do with the action of a pistol. Or, are you just tying to connect yourself with all the folks in the "know".

5,6,7 and 8.....how do you define the term double action?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
70972 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:33 pm to
I just watched some vids of cut-out glocks.

If I had to call it one of the two, I'd call it a double action since the trigger does perform two actions (actually more than that) in loading the striker before releasing it. I think of a single action as pulling the trigger doing nothing but dropping the sear i.e. performing a single action causing the gun to fire. Anything that does more than that is a double action IMO.
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 9:34 pm
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61728 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

I'd call it a double action

doesn't glocks website say its double action

not glocks website......but guns america glock for sale
This post was edited on 5/3/12 at 9:36 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
70972 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

doesn't glocks website say its double action


Idk. I just saw people arguing about whether it was double action or not.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61728 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:36 pm to
its for sure DA
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 9:57 pm to
As far as I'm concerned its a DA. They've just been arguing semantics for the last couple pages. We know what it does, it's been explained, does it really matter whether it can technically be considered a true DAO or not? It's gonna function the same regardless of what you call it

I've been getting a kick out of Alx's posts though
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
70972 posts
Posted on 5/3/12 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

We know what it does


ACTUALLY I had no idea how a glock worked prior to about 20 minutes ago. I had never really cared enough to find out.

quote:

I've been getting a kick out of Alx's posts though


Well he does do that kinda shite for a living
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