Posted by
Message
Cowboyfan89
McNeese State Fan
Member since Sep 2015
11331 posts
 Online 

Bill Proposed to Repeal Pittman-Robertson

GearJunkie Article w/link

Incredibly stupid legislation right here. How anyone could view P-R as an attack on second amendment rights (like it's preventing anyone from buying a gun) is beyond me.


Deadeyedick
LSU Fan
Member since Apr 2015
630 posts
 Online 

Clay Higgins is a sponsor of this, you Lafayette area people need to fill his email up asking to pull his sponsorship
This post was edited on 6/30 at 8:38 pm


Cowboyfan89
McNeese State Fan
Member since Sep 2015
11331 posts
 Online 

quote:

Clay Higgins is a sponsor of this

Why am I not surprised that moron is sponsoring this?

He probably hears all of his constituents complaining about license fees, so it makes sense that he would be on board with this.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
114
DownshiftAndFloorIt
LSU Fan
Here
Member since Jan 2011
62183 posts

quote:

Clay Higgins is a sponsor of this


Ffs really???

Eta: actually I'm not surprised a bunch of coonasses would want to save pennies on their outdoor purchases at the expense of losing this.
This post was edited on 6/30 at 8:47 pm


D500MAG
LSU Fan
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3396 posts

quote:

Ffs really???

Eta: actually I'm not surprised a bunch of coonasses would want to save pennies on their outdoor purchases at the expense of losing this.



Yes really.
How about a Congressional tax to cover all of this. 50% on all money/aide that congress agrees to send outside the U.S.


ETA
1.5 billion 50 states 30 million per state
Outdoorsman aren't seeing this. Agencies and agents are.


This post was edited on 6/30 at 9:19 pm


Cowboyfan89
McNeese State Fan
Member since Sep 2015
11331 posts
 Online 

quote:

1.5 billion 50 states 30 million per state
Outdoorsman aren't seeing this. Agencies and agents are.

Do you even have a fricking clue what that money is used for?


armsdealer
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Member since Feb 2016
6982 posts
 Online 

Higgins is blowhard, but I guess he can be on the right side by accident sometimes.

I am fine with repealing the excise tax.


Cowboyfan89
McNeese State Fan
Member since Sep 2015
11331 posts
 Online 

quote:

I am fine with repealing the excise tax.

Why? Does anyone think firearm and ammo manufacturers aren't just going to stick that 10-11% tax in their pockets if this is repealed? I doubt we all of a sudden see a drop in the cost of firearms and ammo if P-R goes away.

If you don't like the hunting and fishing situation in Louisiana now, just wait and see what things look like when the state is no longer getting those P-R funds.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
188
Junky
Valparaiso Fan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
7360 posts

quote:

I am fine with repealing the excise tax.


I want to see the $200 tax stamps on sbr's and suppressors gone long before this tax is even looked at.

We have a lot of screwed up policies, but P&R is about the best setup we have codified into law.

I don't like to see taxes. However, the was P&R shackles Congress to ONLY use the money for wildlife conservation is a major plus. That money cannot be used for anything else. Typically, taxes go into the general fund and are wasted on projects that have nothing to do with the intended purpose of the tax. P&R is codified into federal law that the money is only for conservation and the preservation of reserves/forests...etc.


Loup
LSU Fan
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
7180 posts

quote:

Clay Higgins is a sponsor of this,


Doesn't surprise me.

@adamjbender on Instagram had a pretty good write up on it.

quote:

A new bill (H.R. 8167) just introduced this week literally made me sick. You hear me talking about the future of hunting and fishing often and this is going to directly inhibit that in a very real way if passed. I get it, it’s not sexy, won’t draw a lot of likes or shares, but I don’t take the time to do these write ups for that…it’s important to me to my core.

A Republican Representative from Georgia (yes, you read that right), has called the 85-year-old Pittman-Robertson Act “an attack on Second Amendment rights.” Taxes right?! Gotta be bad, we pay enough taxes, to hell with this act. But not so fast, there’s more to this story than the headline will lead you to beleive.

For those of you unfamiliar with what this is, here’e a brief history lesson. (Now, I want you to read this and figure out how ANY part of it infringes on our second ammendment rights.) Also known as the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act, but popularly known as the Pittman–Robertson Act, was approved by Congress in 1937 and signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The act provides funding for the selection, restoration, and improvement of wildlife habitat and for wildlife management research. The act was amended in 1970 to include funding for hunter education programs and for the development and operation of public target ranges.

Funds for the act come from an 11% federal excise tax on sporting arms, ammunition, and archery equipment, as well as a 10% tax on handguns. One-half of the excise tax on handguns and archery equipment is used for hunter education and target ranges. These funds are collected from the manufacturers and are distributed each year to the states and territorial areas by the Department of the Interior.

Now, if you read all that, you have to be thinking, “What part is a direct attack on our second ammendment right?” If you can’t find one, that’s cause there isn’t one. Look, I know the gun culture loves to point at the left and usually rightfully so, but this is pure lunacy from the right.
This post was edited on 7/1 at 7:19 am


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
111
Cracker
Montana Fan
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
15298 posts

If we can’t fund habitat and then that habitat disappears remove one generation from hunting and sport shooting we are done. Hunter safety education damn near did that yes it’s great but when only the state was allowed to teach it not private entity’s. Every kid I know couldn’t get in a class. Now it’s been transitioning to web based then a field day. Thank all the moms and dads that took the time and effort to do this.

There are 57 co sponsors of this bill that pumped 1.1 billion back into conservation La only had 1 co sponsor. I am gonna request the where the last 1.1 billion RPA was spent I have always been curious now I want to know. That may shed some light to your house rep.
This post was edited on 7/1 at 7:38 am


D500MAG
LSU Fan
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3396 posts

quote:

P&R is codified into federal law that the money is only for conservation and the preservation of reserves/forests...etc.



Like Social Security?


DownshiftAndFloorIt
LSU Fan
Here
Member since Jan 2011
62183 posts

quote:

fine with repealing the excise tax.


frick that. In this particular case It's a good one


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
74
wickowick
LSU Fan
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
44757 posts

If this tax is going to be around, it needs to include all kinds of outdoor gear, not just shooting stuff. Tents, rock climbing gear, etc, etc...


Pepperidge
LSU Fan
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4211 posts






quote:

ETA
1.5 billion 50 states 30 million per state



I don't believe the money is evenly divided among the states...

It is sort of based on use or proof thereof

The honey island shooting range is a huge revenue generator for LDWF from Pittman Robertson...The logs show how much usage the range gets and LDWF submits that..along with all the WMA sign ins from across the state, and Pittman Robertson funds are generated from this...I'm sure there are other factors too...LDWF gets all of this money and spends it as they see fit


wickowick
LSU Fan
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
44757 posts

License sales are another contributing factor to getting funds. That is why you see a lot of add-on licenses for all the different activities.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
D500MAG
LSU Fan
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3396 posts

quote:

1.5 billion 50 states 30 million per state


quote:

Do you even have a fricking clue what that money is used for?


OK dumbass. Since 1973 has the number of hunters increased or decreased? Have agencies expanded? Number of agents increased?

How are the recreational fishing limits vs commercial?

Hunting/fishing license fees?

Have those taxes been used to get more people involved in hunting/fishing? Remember, the money came out of the pockets of the outdoorsmen.

Now back to me and a fricking clue. 1.5 billion, if every state gets equal share is 30 million per state.
I didn't say do away with the money, I said -How about a Congressional tax to cover all of this. 50% on all money/aide that congress agrees to send outside the U.S.

50% would never happen, but it's always better to start high. So settle for 5%. for example the last big thing congress voted to spend money on.
Ukraine 40 billion

Do you have a clue of what 5% of 40 billion is. Even if you settle for 1%, that's just one expenditure. Biden just "pledged" 200 billion. Any clue what 1% of 200 billion is?
Clue for you, it's more than 1.5 billion.

Or how about the States and Federal government just start paying taxes on State and Federal land. Earmark those taxes for conservation.


Loup
LSU Fan
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
7180 posts

quote:

If this tax is going to be around, it needs to include all kinds of outdoor gear, not just shooting stuff. Tents, rock climbing gear, etc, etc...




There's been talk about extending it to backpacks and other gear. I don't think it was received well. We don't see it as much here in Louisiana but climbers, campers, hikers, etc use the hell out of public land. I agree with you there.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
10
Cracker
Montana Fan
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
15298 posts

It’s a back pocket kickback to wildlife agencies for hunter safety and gun ranges I bet that is an accounting boondoggle the 1 gun range I have is all staffed by volunteers


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
12
Stexas
LSU Fan
SWLA
Member since May 2013
5037 posts



Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2next pagelast page

Back to top

logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram