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Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:25 am
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1585 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:25 am
Has the speckled trout fishing gotten any better recently? Am thinking of making a trip down there in a couple of weeks.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81653 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:31 am to
I would extend those plans to a couple of months.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:32 am to
The Short rigs were hot last week. That was the first uptick in trout numbers I have seen this year. That lake changes daily so anticipating what it will be like in a couple of weeks is impossible. The only thing I can say for sure is that it will be hot as hell.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81653 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:34 am to
quote:

The only thing I can say for sure is that it will be hot as hell.

I just don't get hot fishing down there.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8611 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:35 am to
quote:

The only thing I can say for sure is that it will be hot as hell.


Yep, I'm like Alx. Think I am going to wait until it cools off a bit
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5166 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 10:41 am to
July and August are the worst two months for this lake.
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1585 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:16 pm to
thanks.
Posted by Beamstain
Houston
Member since Jun 2008
326 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 12:28 pm to
Will be in Hackberry this weekend, will be happy to report back
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1585 posts
Posted on 7/11/18 at 5:59 pm to
would appreciate a report.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:43 am to
Somebody catch a real record trout. The last one didn’t count but there are 13 pounders swimming around
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10443 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:57 am to
quote:

The Short rigs were hot last week. That was the first uptick in trout numbers I have seen this year.


July 4th week is usually the unofficial time to go start hitting the short rigs but I don't really associate surf trout with the trout found in a bay. 2 separate fisheries imo. As they start getting beat up out of Cameron, you have to start going West toward Sabine.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7983 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 7:57 am to
quote:

July and August are the worst two months for this lake.


+1

Having lived on Moss Lake all my childhood life and essentially fishing out my back door....I can not agree with this more! Fishing sucks in the hot months on Big Lake...unless there is no rain (no mud) and there is a strong south wind making the salinity high....I think that happened 2-3 times in my life where we benefited from it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81653 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:21 am to
Thanks-I had no idea. I just assumed all summer was good.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
7983 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:32 am to
If the rains are heavy during the summer and there's mud...the lake sucks. If there is a lot of runoff from North of the salt water barrier and the tides/winds are weak...lowering the salinity..the lake sucks.

Now...if there's been a steady south wind and good tides...and couple that with birds working...man...Big Lake is on fire then. We used to fish nine-mile cut and the washout when the tides were running right...right on the ship channel and nail the reds/specks running there... but I've been in Turner's Bay fighting a mud line, and there were no fish to be found. So it can be hit or miss.
Posted by longsidelandry
Delcambre, LA
Member since Jun 2010
42 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 8:39 am to
Fished there this past Saturday morning, the 7th. Wind was barely blowing so we headed south and found some beautiful water but only caught Spanish Mackerel and Jack Crevalle around the platforms so we headed back into the lake. Only caught a small flounder and a couple small croakers around Cameron and nothing on the south end of the lake.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:04 am to
quote:

If there is a lot of runoff from North of the salt water barrier and the tides/winds are weak...lowering the salinity..the lake sucks.


There is a project being planned to actually LOWER the salinity of the lake. According to CPRA the salt water coming through the ship channel is killing what little marsh is there. Not sure if I believe that, but it is going to absolutely kill the fishing around Calcasieu.

Calcasieu Ship Channel Salinity Control Project

quote:

We used to fish nine-mile cut and the washout when the tides were running right


They used to be on fire. Unfortunately, almost all the reefs in that area are silted over. Hopefully their oyster culch project will pay off and bring those back to life.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26455 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:29 am to
That would kill the economy around there if true.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10210 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:43 am to
quote:

They used to be on fire. Unfortunately, almost all the reefs in that area are silted over.


The reason all the reefs are silted over and the oysters aren't reproducing is because of the high salinity and water flow down there due to erosion.

This project is a good thing. It wants to restore the areas south like "washout" and "super cut" and "long point" back to how they were with just small cuts that allowed the water to flow through those points, instead of being wide arse open now due to erosion.

I still don't think it ever happens due to funding, which is why I've tried to encourage CCA to use artificial reefs to make rock piles down that area to help with the water flow. So we shall see....meanwhile the fishing has gone to crap because of it.
Posted by Tigerhead
Member since Aug 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:43 am to
I'm 66 years old and grew up fishing and shrimping on Big Lake. So my memories of the lake go back to let's say 1958. I would have been 6 years old. At that time I believe there was only 4 spots on the ship channel that gave you boat access to the lake. Turners Bay entrance on the north end, Texaco Cut, Nine Mile Cut and the Old River channel on the south end. With the exception of Texaco Cut, all of the other passes were significantly smaller than they are today. There was no Washout. So although the saltwater was present, the volume of water that could enter the lake during a given tide was reduced. The fishing and shrimping was exceptional and oyster reefs were in their prime. It was the same story with West Cove. The cut across from Nine Mile and Oyster Bayou were pretty much the only two ways in or out.

My point is, rather than brain frick this situation to death, spending huge amounts of money and time in the process, just restore the lake to a previous configuration that worked. Most of the decline happened when they let the ship channel levee wash out. Nine Mile Cut was a small boat pass for the oil company rig tenders. Now the lake and ship channel are the same body of water all the way from Long Point to Old River. Duh!
Posted by Beamstain
Houston
Member since Jun 2008
326 posts
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:58 am to
From guide and camp neighbor:


quote:

calm days the short rigs to the east have been good. There has been a lot of birds working around the steam engine down at the wash out. Live shrimp and finger mullet is a must.


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