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re: Benelli guys - Another Shotgun Thread
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:24 am to CFDoc
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:24 am to CFDoc
Thanks for the input. I know Beretta makes a hell of a gun and I'll get a few one day, but from the ones I have shot and shouldered, I just know if I got one I'd wished I got the SBE3 or A5.
I haven't been able to find any SBE2's new around but haven't looked hard as I have one. I posted in another thread I found a used Japanese mag 12 with engraving in really good condition for $600 and it got sold out from under me by "old gun store hang out coffee guy." But I really want another Camo gun anyway. I need to find someone local with a new a5. The main thing keeping me from going and getting the SBE3 today is all the shooting high stories.
I would assume they have fixed that by now, as most of the stories and videos about it are from back closer to when they came out, but I have no idea.
I haven't been able to find any SBE2's new around but haven't looked hard as I have one. I posted in another thread I found a used Japanese mag 12 with engraving in really good condition for $600 and it got sold out from under me by "old gun store hang out coffee guy." But I really want another Camo gun anyway. I need to find someone local with a new a5. The main thing keeping me from going and getting the SBE3 today is all the shooting high stories.
I would assume they have fixed that by now, as most of the stories and videos about it are from back closer to when they came out, but I have no idea.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:25 am to BorrisMart
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. But the click, when I was looking up stuff about it and playing with it before hunting I made sure to always make sure the action was fully set, but I can see how turkey hunting that could make some major mistakes.
Yep, not an issue duck hunting. Turkey hunting, the first time I must have knocked it while walking around and it clicked on me, I thought it was the shell so I quietly slid in another because a second tom had just popped out, I'm sure the action wasn't fully set on that and it clicked again. The third time I had forgotten to load it and tried to do it quietly walking in, so that was my fault
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:36 am to jchamil
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Yep, not an issue duck hunting. Turkey hunting, the first time I must have knocked it while walking around and it clicked on me, I thought it was the shell so I quietly slid in another because a second tom had just popped out, I'm sure the action wasn't fully set on that and it clicked again. The third time I had forgotten to load it and tried to do it quietly walking in, so that was my fault
I have had my SBE2 since 07-08, not long after katrina. I have never had it so the click unless I tried to load it quietly or hunting in the woods walking . It has never done it when shooting rounds in succession.
I am OCD with checking it now while sitting or if im walking in a thicket stalking a hog.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:37 am to jchamil
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Yep, not an issue duck hunting. Turkey hunting, the first time I must have knocked it while walking around and it clicked on me, I thought it was the shell so I quietly slid in another because a second tom had just popped out, I'm sure the action wasn't fully set on that and it clicked again. The third time I had forgotten to load it and tried to do it quietly walking in, so that was my fault
Yeah turkey hunting, I can easily see the click being an issue. I had a click of my own making from being an idiot and not fixing it and missed out on some gray ducks liting in the decoys (but the other guys got em).
I pressed that little button by the trigger guard that locks the bolt as it was loaded to see what it would do because I wanted to see what it would do while loaded. Dumb, I know, but this was the first day using it and I was curious and at that time there were no birds around. I was about to unload and reload it anyway and of course right then the gray ducks swooped in so I just jumped up and shot..click. lol. But that was my fault for being curious in the blind.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 8:40 am
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:50 am to BorrisMart
I’m aware if the high shooting SBE3’s as well. Even saw it first hand on a pattern board here at the club.
The good news is, as long as the gun is only shooting high (and not also left/right), it’s a pretty easy fix. POI can be lowered by a lot of simple fixes.
The good news is, as long as the gun is only shooting high (and not also left/right), it’s a pretty easy fix. POI can be lowered by a lot of simple fixes.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:55 am to CFDoc
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The good news is, as long as the gun is only shooting high (and not also left/right), it’s a pretty easy fix. POI can be lowered by a lot of simple fixes.
Yeah, so you'd just put shims in and shoot it to get it down to where you want? I saw a video of a guy talking about taking the forearm stock off and you can adjust the spring compression and somehow that fixed the shooting high issue, but I would have to rewatch it to figure out exactly what he meant. (it was like a nut holding the spring in, and you can lower it or raise it or something). shite maybe I'm confused and that was from another issue with another gun, now I am confused and trying to find the video.
Other people just talk about putting a larger bead and/or end sight on it (but I wouldn't want to fool with that). I'm just so used to putting the bead on the bird and leading it, having to learn to float it is going to be hard. I intend to fix my/dad's SBE2 at some some point soon as well.
ETA: it is the Bolt on the magazine I guess. I think they put locktite on them, but they are made to be able to adjust for POI. idk.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 9:04 am
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:12 am to BorrisMart
Yeah so the shims are a good start as they don’t require any aesthetic changes to the gun.
As far as the front bead, it’s not so much that you need a larger bead, it’s just that you need to raise the bead relative to the rib somehow. A larger bead is sorta a cheater way to pull this off.
The shims and other stock manipulation methods are really just trying to lower your eye relative to the rib to bring POI down.
Again, it’s just a game you have to play with what your overall sight line looks like as you pull the trigger.
As far as the front bead, it’s not so much that you need a larger bead, it’s just that you need to raise the bead relative to the rib somehow. A larger bead is sorta a cheater way to pull this off.
The shims and other stock manipulation methods are really just trying to lower your eye relative to the rib to bring POI down.
Again, it’s just a game you have to play with what your overall sight line looks like as you pull the trigger.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/14/22 at 11:36 am to CFDoc
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CFDoc
That is what I am learning.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:13 pm to BorrisMart
I did that except I wanted to go to a 28” barrel. In all honesty there is not much difference.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:21 pm to BorrisMart
My ultralight shoots high as well. I was told its intentional as that is how European people shoot. Not sure how much truth there is to that. I just adjusted to it and learned to shoot it. Was a rough learning curve but now I love it.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:02 pm to PSUMMERS
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I did that except I wanted to go to a 28” barrel. In all honesty there is not much difference.
I grew up hunting with a youth 870 with a tiny barrel and kept hunting it as a twenty something and jumped to a 28" and never looked back.
As for the European stuff, I have read that as well. I can get the sbe3, among others, at a local store but all the a5's seem to be backed up. Idk, this is the problem with money burning a hole in your pocket. Found a decent used old Remington 11-87 special purpose super mag for $400 and an engraved Sportsman 58, maybe I should just get that in the meantime and pick up a used or cheap rifle and call it a duo.
But I know I'll be pissed and end up getting the Benelli or browning the next chance I get some extra money.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:24 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Benelli claims this as well.
But I own both a Cordoba and SuperSport and both shoot dead nuts flat. Have since they day I bought them.
But I own both a Cordoba and SuperSport and both shoot dead nuts flat. Have since they day I bought them.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:26 pm to BorrisMart
Look at the Super Vinci.
It’s an Inertia operated shotgun just like the SBE’s but the spring is inline with the bolt which helps to reduce muzzle rise from the recoil.
They are not traditional looking guns but they sure do shoot well.
It’s an Inertia operated shotgun just like the SBE’s but the spring is inline with the bolt which helps to reduce muzzle rise from the recoil.
They are not traditional looking guns but they sure do shoot well.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:28 pm to bbvdd
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bbvdd
Yeah I widened my search a bit and was just looking at those. I think I get that and the Ethos confused. I'm not (but will probably be by the end of this searching) a Benelli history buff with the models. The M-4 seems like it might be a good gun as well.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:41 pm to BorrisMart
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The M-4 seems like it might be a good gun as well.
They are although they’re a gas operated action. I have one of those as well. Mine is technically the m1014 but they’re the same thing.
I love it but it isn’t a hunting gun by any means.
I love my Super vinci. It is a hunting gun. Mine is camo.
ETA: The Super Vinci is a three piece gun.
Stock
Trigger and mag tube
Action and barrel
Very unique
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:48 pm to bbvdd
Ahh makes sense. I hadn't given the M-4 a hard look but it looked like they had tactical versions of it too which made me think it wasn't a "hunting gun" like others. Let me dive more into the super Vinci. I'm not opposed to gas guns, I just like the inertia system and I've had some and never paid attention to having to clean them longer or more, but I keep reading about that being a thing nowadays. Thanks baw.
ETA: the SV in Camo looks very similar to my sbe2. Maybe its hard to really tell with Camo and in photos. Whatever I get, the sbe2 I have is max 5 and I want a mossy oak bottomland or a different Camo pattern. Where I grew up hunting in CenLa, and would go hunt down in SouthLa my darker Camo waders stuck out like a giant blob. Similarly, the max 5 sort of is noticeable against the pine brush blinds I usually hunt lol. Not that any of that really matters, just when you're spending money might as well get every feature narrowed down.
ETA: the SV in Camo looks very similar to my sbe2. Maybe its hard to really tell with Camo and in photos. Whatever I get, the sbe2 I have is max 5 and I want a mossy oak bottomland or a different Camo pattern. Where I grew up hunting in CenLa, and would go hunt down in SouthLa my darker Camo waders stuck out like a giant blob. Similarly, the max 5 sort of is noticeable against the pine brush blinds I usually hunt lol. Not that any of that really matters, just when you're spending money might as well get every feature narrowed down.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:51 pm to BorrisMart
My buddy has shot a super vinci for probably 12 years now and i don't think he has ever had a problem with it.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:44 pm to reds on reds on reds
I shoot a Super Vinci. I used to be 100% Beretta after my last SBE turned into a huge lemon. I love the SV although it took some time to adjust to the look and the new sight plane after having shot a Beretta for so many years. It might be the easiest shotgun to break down and clean and mine knock on wood doesn’t jam at all. However every one in my hunting group shoots the new A400 and I must say they look sweet.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:53 pm to MWP
I keep seeing people loving the A400's and I don't really like the look and I shouldered an a300 (different I know) but it just didn't feel as good as the sbe2. But worth looking at forsure. I wonder how much more cleaning maintenance it would take on an A400 vs. a SV or SBE3.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 5:11 pm to BorrisMart
I also have a Ethos 20ga Super Sport in walnut. It’s a very nice gun. Light weight, balanced, reduced recoil inertia and ported. It’s not a safe queen but close.
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