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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:03 pm to BorrisMart
If I was buying another Benelli it would not be an SBE 2 or 3 but another Super Vinci. My last SBE ruined me on them. I guess they still make Vincis? Mine is about 10 years old.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:21 pm to BorrisMart
The ethos and Vinci are not even close to the same platform.
At this day and age, Benelli essentially has three inertia platforms and one gas. The gas system being their ARGO system like you see in the M4.
For inertia, they have three platforms. 1.) The old school, original 2-piece platform, 2.) The updated 3-piece platform, and 3.) the Vinci platform.
The OG 2-piece is what you got in the Montefelteo, SBE1, SBE2, M1 Super 90, etc. This is the design where the barrel and receiver are the same piece and separate from the rest of the gun together. It’s been around a LONG time and is still sold today in Benelli and some other inertia brands as well.
The updated 3 piece platform is what you will find in the vast majority of Benellis sold today. Sports, super sports, legacy, cordoba, M2, Ethos, SBE3, and on and on. With this platform the barrel and receiver are independent parts. Basically, with this design, the stressed parts of the gun remain in the barrel so they can make the receiver portion of the gun extremely light and removable. It also made the guns extremely easy to clean because all parts of the gun that see burnt gasses and directly accessible.
Finally, Benelli went way outside the box and created the Vinci platform which another poster already posted pics of the setup. Basically, the entire inertia system responsible for ejecting and inserting new shells is all in line with the barrel of the gun. It’s a very unique design but makes for a funky looking outer line because the entire system is sitting directly behind the loaded shell. But it again makes gun cleaving super easy.
At this day and age, Benelli essentially has three inertia platforms and one gas. The gas system being their ARGO system like you see in the M4.
For inertia, they have three platforms. 1.) The old school, original 2-piece platform, 2.) The updated 3-piece platform, and 3.) the Vinci platform.
The OG 2-piece is what you got in the Montefelteo, SBE1, SBE2, M1 Super 90, etc. This is the design where the barrel and receiver are the same piece and separate from the rest of the gun together. It’s been around a LONG time and is still sold today in Benelli and some other inertia brands as well.
The updated 3 piece platform is what you will find in the vast majority of Benellis sold today. Sports, super sports, legacy, cordoba, M2, Ethos, SBE3, and on and on. With this platform the barrel and receiver are independent parts. Basically, with this design, the stressed parts of the gun remain in the barrel so they can make the receiver portion of the gun extremely light and removable. It also made the guns extremely easy to clean because all parts of the gun that see burnt gasses and directly accessible.
Finally, Benelli went way outside the box and created the Vinci platform which another poster already posted pics of the setup. Basically, the entire inertia system responsible for ejecting and inserting new shells is all in line with the barrel of the gun. It’s a very unique design but makes for a funky looking outer line because the entire system is sitting directly behind the loaded shell. But it again makes gun cleaving super easy.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:55 am to CFDoc
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CFDoc
I really appreciate the explanation. So, I guess that is a big difference between the SBE2 and 3 in that regard at least.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:12 am to BorrisMart
That’s the biggest difference mechanically for sure.
There’s a bunch more differences when you consider stock dimensions as far as LOP, Drop at heel/comb, and then a bunch of other little nuances like bolt closures, removable rib options, and stuff like that.
There’s a bunch more differences when you consider stock dimensions as far as LOP, Drop at heel/comb, and then a bunch of other little nuances like bolt closures, removable rib options, and stuff like that.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 12:28 pm to CFDoc
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That’s the biggest difference mechanically for sure.
There’s a bunch more differences when you consider stock dimensions as far as LOP, Drop at heel/comb, and then a bunch of other little nuances like bolt closures, removable rib options, and stuff like that.
I grew up an 870 guy so its been interesting to dive into the world of higher end shotguns but I'd be lying if I said I could tell much apart from photos without seeing them. The Super Vinci does look like an awesome gun. I guess they still make them, I see them on some websites for sale. I wonder if Benelli has released any information on what their next "big" hunting gun will be?
Posted on 1/15/22 at 4:17 pm to BorrisMart
Yall have sold me on the Super Vinci but can't find it locally in Camo anywhere. I'm gonna go to a big local shop that doesn't have a website and see. Either way, I want to find myself eventually with a SBE3, A5, and Super Vinci. Then get into the gas guns. Tempted to buy this used 11-87 special purpose, I just need to figure out the year it was made because I don't really trust newer Remingtons, but it looks fairly old and it isn't in "Like new" condition.
ETA: this is why I try to restrict my buying to once a year, but I have a few years to make up for and now I'm gonna end up spending way too much money.
ETA: this is why I try to restrict my buying to once a year, but I have a few years to make up for and now I'm gonna end up spending way too much money.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 4:49 pm to BorrisMart
Hell my sbe2 has never failed me no reason to find something that’s not broken
Posted on 1/15/22 at 5:03 pm to Cracker
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Hell my sbe2 has never failed me no reason to find something that’s not broken
No doubt. Mine, is technically my dads, that he got to troll me a few years back and hes quirky and I can use it whenever but I don't wanna listen to him and his annoying questions every-time I wanna go duck hunt. He got it specifically to "give to me one day" bc he doesn't hunt and when I was little all my friends at school would talk about what their dads were gonna give them one day. lol and I'd jokingly give him shite about it, so he bought the SBE2 and kept it a secret for a few years and finally told me and let me hunt with it. Plus, I'm itching to add a new gun for my collection and to hunt with going forward if I go on any hunts not local to where I grew up. (goofy story I know). The more the merrier.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:48 pm to BorrisMart
I have the ii. I would get a beretta before I bought the iii
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:19 pm to BorrisMart
Seems to me that the sbe2 is basically the pinnacle of recoil operated duck guns.
I prefer gas guns though for something I'm going to shoot alot. I have a benelli ultralight and a beretta 1301 and the berretta kicks wayyyyyyy less and only weighs a little tiny bit more. That ultralight frickin hurts after a pile of heavy shells.
I prefer gas guns though for something I'm going to shoot alot. I have a benelli ultralight and a beretta 1301 and the berretta kicks wayyyyyyy less and only weighs a little tiny bit more. That ultralight frickin hurts after a pile of heavy shells.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Guess ill go down the gas gun rabbit hole now that I got a little time. The Maxus 2 and A400 are the big equivalents there?
The Maxus 2 and A400 are the big equivalents there?This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 8:37 am
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:53 am to BorrisMart
Didn't wanna make a new thread but is Sportsman's Warehouse in Slidell legit? I found some interesting stuff on their website and noticed it said Slidell. Wouldn't be hard to drive over or order it and have it shipped to the local shop I guess.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:55 am to BorrisMart
Yep. Have bought some stuff from them.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:00 pm to bbvdd
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Yep. Have bought some stuff from them.
Thanks looks like if the trip tomorrow to the gun shop doesn't work out I may see what I can do about getting down there or getting it mailed.
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