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re: BASS Makes Louisiana "Off Limits"

Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86516 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:21 pm to
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My intent is to point out how Louisiana has utterly f-ed up this situation
The situation is great unless you favor trespassing and place little value on private property.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5543 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:16 pm to
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Bottom sentence. Toledo bend not affected. It's not all Louisiana waters Only tidal waters. A little misleading
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:18 pm to
I wish that was true.... but they sure do gate off the tidal waters
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4533 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:24 pm to
True on the deep pockets with oil and gas

What about the regular land owners?
I have personally seen and been ask to leave "posted private property" while in my boat fishing on nature made waterways which see tidal movement all because their land is on both sides of said body of water.

Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4533 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:26 pm to
Yes gates, cables, floating barrels, fencing, etc.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4533 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:32 pm to
Man made canals...to remain private should be permanently leveed off as to not allow tidal movement, therefore, now can claim water body inside leveed area is private
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:56 pm to
I agree with you 100%
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1825 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:27 am to
quote:

The situation is great unless you favor trespassing and place little value on private property.


That sure is a shiny hook!!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86516 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 6:56 am to
It's not my fault you favor trespassing and the taking of property.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1825 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:05 am to
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not my fault you favor trespassing and the taking of property.


Approaching shiny treble hook status
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11362 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:24 am to
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not my fault you favor trespassing and the taking of property


You always become a huge troll when water access is brought up. What regions do you fish in Louisiana ?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86516 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:31 am to
Why do you say this? I only correct people who do not understand the law in this area. I also point out the inconsistency in their positions caused by their desire to fish. There's nothing even close to trolling. Dock gets it-he just doesn't agree with me. Can you explain where the troll comment comes from?
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11362 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:41 am to
Where do you fish. Aren't you a North La baw?
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1825 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:46 am to
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Why do you say this? I only correct people who do not understand the law in this area.


Edit to add reference.

You could order the best T-bone steak ever known to man, but if the waiter walks up with the steak in his hands slaps you in the face with it and walks off, it's likely you'll not like said steak....
Delivery...
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 8:15 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 7:53 am to
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I only correct people who do not understand the law in this area.


We understand but we don't agree with it.
Posted by Drunken_tiger
Member since Oct 2016
147 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:54 am to
The position you take is that condecnding royal Dick whenever this subject comes up. It's like a personal vendetta for you or something.

I think a lot of the people understand the law, but don't agree. It's fricking infuriating when I go fish all across the gulf coast and never have a problem except in this third world country of a state.

Louisiana had a chance to get it right after Phillips petroleum vs Mississippi in 1988, but chose to cave in to big money lobbying and frick the sportsmen of this state. Man made canals and access to those are one thing, but natural tidal waterways,bays and lakes that allowed to be claimed private is ridiculous.

I don't think nobody's advocating trasspassing or the taking of land. I just would like some clarity on the issues and not so much gray. The only decent outcome of this is both side find some middle ground on the isssue.

It's ridiculous that A man has to do a weeks worth of researching just to be able to know where I can and can't be just to go fishing for a day.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4533 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 11:32 am to
X2
Well said especially part about natural waterways being claimed as private
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 12:08 pm to
It seems everybody understands the law but doesn't agree to it, but it's still the law. Why is this even an argument? In the state of LA, You don't have to have a No trespassing sign up, fisherman are "supposed" to be responsible enough to know where they can fish and where they can't. Are there people claiming land is theirs when it's not, sure, but there is also people who pay for land and fisherman Claim it's public land Just because it's tidal. It all boils down to people wanting to fish on other people's property. Don't argue with me, argue with Louisiana legislature.

Explain "natural waterways". Who is supposed to determine that anyways? Like it's been previously stated, it always falls on local law enforcement and they usually side with landowners most all of the time.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1825 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

It seems everybody understands the law but doesn't agree to it, but it's still the law. Why is this even an argument?



No they don't, many dont, especially not those from other states or new to Louisiana or the outdoors. Many highly experienced fisherman are shocked when they hear the gravity of the situation and scratch their preverbial heads.

"antiquity has its charms....but it may be doubted whether wisdom is not more frequently found in experience and the gradual progress of human affairs" Justice McLean of the U.S. Supreme Court.

So, what does Louisiana continue to do? We use a map of 1812 as our basis for land versus water, a map that was made before Henry Ford's dad was even born...

Antiques ... leave that to funrnature dealers and get with the times Louisiana.

Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4533 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:09 pm to
"There is also people who pay for land and fisherman Claim it's public land Just because it's tidal."

Part of the issue poly...landowners claiming ownership to tidal waters in the context of well in ebb and flows on my land. BS...land owners (including myself) do not own tidal waters and shold not privitize as such
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