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re: BASS Makes Louisiana "Off Limits"

Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:22 am to


I really think it will be overturned. Not for true reasons of law, but more pragmatic ones.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:51 am to
Masson just wrote about this, too. NOLA.com Masson article on BASS decision

Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Not for true reasons of law, but more pragmatic ones.


Louisiana gonna Louisiana..

Considering your quote above as my new sig quote..
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:12 am to
Permanently levee it off and the now stagnit water and the dirt under that water is now your land

But if the land owner chooses not to permanently levee it off and continues to have tidal movement then the water only should be accessible by everyone
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:27 am to
Not if there's a gate
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:32 am to
Oh contrare Poly...for this poster owns a large track of land with a tidal movement body of water passing through a portion of land track.
This poster does not post no tresspassing signs nor trys to run off any boat that accessess this body of water.

Please enlighten us all as to what Bassmasters true position is on this issue.

Your assinine statement may ring true but opens the question as to why these land owners you speak of have the need to have the position of "I own it all".
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 10:37 am to
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4221 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:04 am to
What I figured...

This is an adult issue and an adult conversation
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:13 am to
These "adults" still haven't figured it out. Now you've just resorted to a message board airing out your troubles that fall on deaf ears. Land owners can gate off their property because it belongs to them. Natural waterways is a gray area, if they are man made canals even if makes the land tidal, its trespassing.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:16 am to
quote:

if they are man made canals even if makes the land tidal, its trespassing.


Not even close to being an accurate statement.
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:18 am to
Tell me the truth
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:25 am to
Canals dug that change the hydrology of a region and make naturally navigable bodies non-navigable can be subject to being a public thing.
Canals dug with public funds on private property can be deemed public things.

Canals dug with private funds on private lands are likely private things.
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:31 am to
I gotcha, still a highly debatable thing especially whether you know how it was dug, with public funds or not, etc. I know the land I'm talking about was dug by a private company by private landowners back in the 40's in order to get barges to oil wells.The gray area is where this private land connects to public and I'd imagine that's a lot of cases thruout Louisiana
This post was edited on 8/11/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1635 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:39 am to
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The gray area

Yes. My intent is to point out how Louisiana has utterly f-ed up this situation. Have left it up to a case-by-case basis for millions of canals and bayous, and has pushed the enforcement part down to the local sheriff department level.

Todd Masson has just released a second article on the subject, has some hard hitting quotes in there. Linkage
Posted by PolyPusher86
St. George
Member since Jun 2010
3357 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 11:49 am to
It will ALWAYS be a battle between land owners and fishermen. Guy pays big money for property and every tom dick and harry wants to be in there and are hanging onto "if it floats, it boats". Interesting article, as the article says, the local law enforcement usually sides with the land owners and I've seen that happen several times.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30196 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Really? We have family land that is mostly swamp, bordered on 2 sides by water and has no roads to it. We pay pennies on the dollar for taxes compared to my residential property tax.




It's the same rate as the non submerged land you have in that area. There is no Louisiana property tax, only local (parish and city in Lafayette, possibly school board or school district or other types of taxes in other places). It's based on the value of your property as determined by the parish tax assessor, typically. Some (possibly most) jurisdictions have different rates for different types of property. That often means undeveloped property and farmland are taxed at a lower percentage than residential property and business property is usually handled differently, as well.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22677 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 2:45 pm to
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culture of the sport.


Bass fishing is a sport?
Posted by Mark Makers
The LP
Member since Jul 2015
2336 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 3:33 pm to
Comments from the local elite series anglers Cajun Baby and Greg Hackney

LINK
Posted by rballa19
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4379 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:51 pm to
I don't understand how Louisiana can have so much trouble with it when literally every other state in the country has laws that allow public access to any navigable water. Hopefully change is coming, but I won't hold my breath. Like Hackney said, oil and gas have deep pockets and they are going to fight it to the end.
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 8:48 pm to
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Permanently levee it off and the now stagnit water and the dirt under that water is now your land


Bingo

You shouldn't be able to own tidal waterways period.
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