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Ammo Question

Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:47 am
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
961 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:47 am
I just bough a Smith and Wesson M & P 15-22. The guy at the store told me subsonic ammo would not eject out after a shot I would have to manually eject it. Anyone know if that is accurate?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18372 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:02 am to
Even if someone else’s gun ejects subs it’s no guarantee yours will. If you’ve already bought it, why not go find out?
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1688 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:36 am to
Things labeled subsonic may not. Typically because they are under loaded for suppressor use.

But if you are using a suppressor and care about keeping it subsonic you don’t have to find ammo specifically labeled subsonic for it to stay subsonic.

The standard velocity CCI is labeled 1070 on the box and stays subsonic in my 18” 10/22
Posted by ConnectTheDots
Member since May 2026
238 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:10 pm to
I never had a problem with ejections but I recently got a suppressor for my 15/22 and the standard velocity bullets stay subsonic.
Posted by cajun3gunner
Member since Mar 2023
167 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:27 pm to
You'll need to test which ammo will run well in your rifle.
Posted by EFHogman
Member since May 2016
677 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:28 pm to
In general standard velocity is the way to go. It's quiet with a suppressor.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4244 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 2:22 pm to
Mine does not eject them.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
51255 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 5:11 pm to
Mine cycles subs just fine. I have a bunch of Gemtech subs that all do great and are very quiet. But honestly the best bang for your buck is CCI standard velocity; it’s cheap and readily available and does fine thru the suppressor without hearing protection needed
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2163 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Things labeled subsonic may not. Typically because they are under loaded for suppressor use.


Nah, it's marketing hype to charge a premium.
quote:

The standard velocity CCI is labeled 1070 on the box and stays subsonic in my 18” 10/22

Now you get it.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1688 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 7:55 pm to
Oh yeah? How many rounds have you shot through a chrono?

I imagine you have atleast a few different types to see how different subsonic and “Supersonic” rounds chrono through pistols and rifles?

No you haven’t? Then maybe don’t spout off stuff you don’t actually know about

Yes there are subsonic, suppressor specific, loads that are a little underpowered especially if using standard 36 and 40gr projectiles that will not cycle semi autos.

There are some heavier grained bullets that are subsonic that have enough energy to cycle well but I have not noticed enough audible difference on the pistol to matter and the rifle is not distinguishable at all.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2163 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:08 pm to
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How many rounds have you shot through a chrono?


Slow down Speedracer. Enough to stand by what I said, and more through factory calibrated equipment than you've ever came across in your life. You don't know my background, so suck up the facts.
Standard velocity was the original 40gr loading for 22lr. Then they came up with high velocity, which can be more reliable in certain firearms because of the extra blowback pressure. Fast forward to supressors being common, and it was quickly realized that standard is quieter, so simply mark them as subsonic and charge a premium for less. Before people paid extra for high velocity. Now they pay more extra for subsonic, which is simply standard velocity.
Think of light beer vs real beer.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1688 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:23 pm to
And I have enough to know that there are atleast 3 types of subsonic rounds that do not cycle semi autos because they are shooting somewhere in the 800-900 fps range with a 40gr projectile and not producing enough energy to cycle the bolt.

Yes the difference between the 1070 standard velocity and 800-900 of the subsonic out of an 18” 10/22 barrel is real and not just a marketing gimmick.

Sure there are some that are just marketing being subsonic when it’s just regular old “standard velocity”. But there are absolutely under loaded subsonic rounds that are “quieter” through a pistol than the standard velocity cci
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Sams Crow
Idaho
Member since Apr 2026
772 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:03 pm to
Wouldn't a softer spring kit address this nicely?
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