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AK-47/AR-15 chambered in 7.62x39 Question
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:41 pm
I am considering building an AK-15 chambered in 7.62x39. I already have an AK-47 I bought years ago, but wanted to build one because the ammo is cheaper and I can find in bulk. It is well knows that AKs can shot cheap steel and never have any real issues. I originally got my AK for the same reason years ago. I am trying to stock up on firearms while they are still available.
The questions is: will an AR-15 be just as reliable shooting that round as an AK and will chew through steel the same? Or should I only shoot brass through the AR and use steel for my AK?
The questions is: will an AR-15 be just as reliable shooting that round as an AK and will chew through steel the same? Or should I only shoot brass through the AR and use steel for my AK?
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:48 pm to Lsudx256
It'll shoot steel just fine.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:51 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Everyone goes nuts when you shoot steel in a traditional 223 at platform?
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 5/1/21 at 8:06 pm to Jack Ruby
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everyone goes nuts when you shoot steel in a traditional AR15/223 at platform?
nah, not everyone. There are plenty of people who shoot it, I don't shoot it in mine, but you can do whatever you want with your own rifle.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 9:45 pm to Lsudx256
I think it’ll be fine. I shoot steel in my AR10 sometimes with no issues. I think the issues with steel are overblown.
Posted on 5/1/21 at 9:46 pm to Lsudx256
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I am considering building an AK-15 chambered in 7.62x39.
Good decision bc this ammo is always plentiful at every store I go to
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:57 am to biglego
I've built 4 so far.
Get an enhanced firing pin. Black rifle arms has a package deal with the extra power hammer spring.
Extra power hammer spring is not needed although I went and installed them on the two i own.
Extractors can be an issue if over gassed. I've yet to have one fail but I have a couple spare.
Each rifle has a spare bolt and pin in the handle.
They are very accurate with the steel ammo at 100yrds.
Edit:c products magazines.
Get an enhanced firing pin. Black rifle arms has a package deal with the extra power hammer spring.
Extra power hammer spring is not needed although I went and installed them on the two i own.
Extractors can be an issue if over gassed. I've yet to have one fail but I have a couple spare.
Each rifle has a spare bolt and pin in the handle.
They are very accurate with the steel ammo at 100yrds.
Edit:c products magazines.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:15 am to Lsudx256
If you want to shoot X39 get an AK.
If you have a proper AR it should shoot steel just fine, the biggest reliability issue with X39 in an AR is the magazine/receiver interface, the platform was simply not designed for the cartridge.
If you want cheap ammo, shoot steel out of a good AR or get another AK.
If you have a proper AR it should shoot steel just fine, the biggest reliability issue with X39 in an AR is the magazine/receiver interface, the platform was simply not designed for the cartridge.
If you want cheap ammo, shoot steel out of a good AR or get another AK.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:54 am to Lsudx256
big fan of 762x39 but it is no tack driving match round as you likely already know. I’ve never understood the appeal of an AR in that round but my understanding is they’ve come a long way from the first few tries which were unreliable feeders
I have two SKS, an AK and a mini 30 so I shoot a lot of steel ammo with never an issue although I try to avoid it in the ruger. PPU makes a good brass cased round that’s still pretty cheap. Honestly of the four I like the cheap beat up viet-era norinco SKS the best
I have two SKS, an AK and a mini 30 so I shoot a lot of steel ammo with never an issue although I try to avoid it in the ruger. PPU makes a good brass cased round that’s still pretty cheap. Honestly of the four I like the cheap beat up viet-era norinco SKS the best
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:29 am to cgrand
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big fan of 762x39 but it is no tack driving match round as you likely already know. I’ve never understood the appeal of an AR in that round but my understanding is they’ve come a long way from the first few tries which were unreliable feeders
Ive always wanted an AK, but damn they are high. I was able to put together 2 ARs last summer for the price of an AK right now.
Great hog gun.
One is scoped out for the kids to hunt with, and the other was for me.
I'd still like to get an AK just because. Prices will never be what they were to buy one.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:25 am to thejudge
keep an eye out for Chinese or yugo surplus SKS’s they turn up in crates relatively often at places like classic firearms. Especially for hogs it’s a better choice than an AK. I like the AK fine and it’s fun to spray and pray but it’s uncomfortable to sling/carry and uncomfortable to shoulder and fire. You can pretty easily add peep sights to the SKS and/or get a forward rail for a scout scope
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:39 am to cgrand
I'd be plenty happy with an SKS.
Where is classic firearms?
I'll keep an eye out for them.
Where is classic firearms?
I'll keep an eye out for them.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:13 am to thejudge
I bought a Romanian WASR-10 about 6 years ago. I’ve only put steel through it and probably 1500 rounds. Not 1 issue. Cleans easy. You can get them for less than $700 before tax/shipping/FFL.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:05 pm to cgrand
quote:I have a couple of SKS's, one Yugo and one Chinese. They are fine guns for what they are, and I wouldn't sell mine.
keep an eye out for Chinese or yugo surplus SKS’s they turn up in crates relatively often at places like classic firearms
But right now, I'm not seeing any under $500 minimum. And they ARE limited with mag capacity (10 rd, or ugly 30 rd duckbill). Also, stripper clips instead of mag swaps.
In contrast, a 7.62 upper will fit on a standard AR lower, and they don't necessarily cost a lot. I picked up a Bear Creek Arsenal upper with BCG, for $330.
quote:C Product mags, zero failure to feed thus far with mine. Online information pretty much states they are a) very reliable and b) the ONLY option to trust.
If you have a proper AR it should shoot steel just fine, the biggest reliability issue with X39 in an AR is the magazine/receiver interface, the platform was simply not designed for the cartridge.
I have added a couple of the 28 rd mags, the 10 rd mags worked great.
quote:
Get an enhanced firing pin. Black rifle arms has a package deal with the extra power hammer spring.
Extra power hammer spring is not needed although I went and installed them on the two i own.
Extractors can be an issue if over gassed. I've yet to have one fail but I have a couple spare.
I have to agree with this. My extractor sheared on the 1st shot
It's worth noting this: the extractor that comes on a 7.62 bolt looks different, it's the same one intended for 6.5 Grendel I believe. Those are expensive. I went ahead and bought a couple cheap 5.56 extractors, at 1/3 to 1/4 the cost. Zero issue thus far- it grabs the case and throws it out, no malfunctions noted.
Firing pin and hammer spring- I slapped this upper on a stock Radical Firearms lower. Ran Barnaul fine, some trouble with Wolf.
$11 for enhanced firing pin from Red X (no tax and free s/h) solved this, without having to play with the spring. Now 100% reliable with Wolf and Tula.
I think I have my upper running fine, so I ordered a cheapo complete lower (assembled) for $180. Plan is to just slap it on to make a complete 7.62 AR.
If it works out, that's still under $550 (plus mags) for a complete AR, which I would prefer at that price over an SKS. And you can't touch an AK for that.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:06 pm to Lsudx256
quote:where?
I bought a Romanian WASR-10 about 6 years ago. I’ve only put steel through it and probably 1500 rounds. Not 1 issue. Cleans easy. You can get them for less than $700 before tax/shipping/FFL.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 3:20 pm to Scoob
Was all of that with the Bear Creek upper? Wasn’t sure if they came with the proper firing pin.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 4:58 pm to Hurricane Mike
quote:The BCA upper came with a standard firing pin. I got it for $328, I think the prices go up and down a hair. It's a bit higher now.
Was all of that with the Bear Creek upper? Wasn’t sure if they came with the proper firing pin.
Nobody else had an upper WITH the BCG within $100, that I could find.
Red X Arms has the enhanced pin for $11, that's to the door. I ordered it "just in case" when I ordered the upper, based on online reviews and comments.
I bought the cheapest generic extractors I could find, I think they were $8 apiece. I got 4 total, since I have a pair of 5.56 rifles too, and figured it would be good insurance to have on hand. The lowest 7.62 extractor I could find mentioned was about $20 and out of stock, the lowest in stock was close to $40.
Bear Creek finally responded to me and is mailing a replacement extractor. I think it was just a fluke that it broke, but since the other ones are working, I will just hold it as insurance.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:14 pm to Scoob
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The BCA upper came with a standard firing pin
I have a BCA upper that I haven't finished building yet and wasn't sure if they had upgraded the firing pin. I ordered an enhanced firing pin and hammer spring through blackriflearms and I guess I will be switching them out.
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