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Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:01 am to Elcid96
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Unless this guy is trained very well, he isn't making a head shot on a intruder running in his house..
my uncle shot an intruder in the head breaking in from the kitchen window... i wouldn't call him a well trained gun shooter or anything.
not dismissing the miss possibility but that's why 9's have like 15 more rounds...
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:02 am to Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:03 am to Chad504boy
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my uncle shot an intruder in the head breaking in from the kitchen window
Yes HEAD SHOT...a 22 can kill you!!!
Congrats on your uncle...the fact is .... a 9 is a weak weapon for stopping power compared to the ones I mentioned...
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:05 am to Glock17
Law man...just a fact about the liability. Big inner cities don't like to issue larger weapons due to the poorly constucted walls and houseing apartments. They feared that these large caliber weapons could easily penetrate the walls and therefore injure third parties. Sorry just the facts.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:09 am to Elcid96
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.the fact is .... a 9 is a weak weapon for stopping power compared to the ones I mentioned...
fact is, you said the 9mm has no stopping power. just stop talking.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:09 am to Elcid96
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..just a fact about the liability. Big inner cities don't like to issue larger weapons due to the poorly constucted walls and houseing apartments. They feared that these large caliber weapons could easily penetrate the walls and therefore injure third parties. Sorry just the facts
You clearly know nothing about ballistics...... the 9mm round is well know for over penetration so if departments had these concerns that would shy away from it.
Unless you can find some facts to back that story, you just pulled it out of your arse.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:13 am to Glock17
My .45 couldn't penetrate a stop sign... it was leaving huge fricking dents in it.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:31 am to Chad504boy
I feel very secure in my home with a 9mm and .30 special loaded with hollow-points...and my alarm...and my dogs.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:32 am to Glock17
You don't know much...than...there not using FMJ's their using hollowpoints that mushroom..... OK smartass...the topic was stopping power....9's don't have what the 40,357 or 45 or 10 have period...keep dreaming.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:33 am to Chad504boy
IF your telling me a 9mm has more knock down than a 45 you really have no idea what your talking about. Sorry.
This post was edited on 8/6/10 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:52 am to Elcid96
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IF your telling me a 9mm has more knock down than a 45 you really have no idea what your talking about. Sorry.
If you're telling me the knock down power of a 9mm is insufficient... then you don't know that you got no idea.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 11:53 am to Elcid96
You don't have to worry about stopping power if you can put 2-3 shots on em.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 1:14 pm to Chad504boy
Reading some of these posts is why i posted my original thoughts.. Its a pissing contest and the ones with the bigger guns think theirs will be better.
Bottom line, go grab a few different calibers, shoot them, handle them and get something that is fun and you are comfortable shooting. If you run a few hundred rounds down the barrel of that 9mm, you will be extremely lethal with it.
Bottom line, go grab a few different calibers, shoot them, handle them and get something that is fun and you are comfortable shooting. If you run a few hundred rounds down the barrel of that 9mm, you will be extremely lethal with it.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 1:19 pm to Elcid96
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Elcid96
Still waiting on the story about police using 9mm due to liability....
Posted on 8/6/10 at 1:34 pm to mylsuhat
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a .22 will stop most home invaders
I wouldn't risk my life or families lives on a .22. Don't get me wrong,I love my .22's and love shooting them but for personal defence I'm going centerfire. At least 147 gr. 9mm hollowpoints.
I still have Black Talons in my stash.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 3:01 pm to HeadSlash
when i was in the marines they dropped the 45 and went to the 9mm, most everyone then up to now,still wishes they still had the 45
fwiw
fwiw
Posted on 8/6/10 at 3:30 pm to fishcraze
There have been many people killed by 9mm. If you are proficient with a 9mm and so so with 40 or 45 which one are you safer with? I dont get into the whole stopping power ballistics thing. Hit your target. Double tap. Learn how to use your weapon of choice and defend yourself under stress. Personally Im better with my 9mm than any other handgun. I prefer my 9mm with defensive ammo than my 45.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 3:52 pm to TexasTiger
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No one would want to get hit with a 9mm with the right type of round in it. Get a good expanding HP and it will stop most anybody.
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9mm are easy to handle...recoil is very manageable on a full size pistol frame, which allows for an accurate first shot and an accurate follow up.
This in a nutshell. 9MM has plenty of stopping power on a 200lb human. If for some reason shot #1 wasn't good enough the "very manageable" recoil will make it very easy and possible for the second one to make sure he does.
Great home defense weapon. Are there better? Absolutely. Will this be more than sufficient? Yes. Without a doubt.
Posted on 8/6/10 at 6:14 pm to LSUAfro
Home defense = 12 gauge buckshot, end of story
For those arguing stopping power please read this story of how a man takes, one shot to the chest with a .40 and 4 shots to the chest with a .45 at point blank range and contniues to physically man handle the officer until he was shot in the head with a 45
Temple - Harrison
I have been told that the toxicology reports post mortum were negative
For those arguing stopping power please read this story of how a man takes, one shot to the chest with a .40 and 4 shots to the chest with a .45 at point blank range and contniues to physically man handle the officer until he was shot in the head with a 45
Temple - Harrison
I have been told that the toxicology reports post mortum were negative
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