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9MM Ammo?

Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:14 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:14 pm
Being I got the S&W M&P 9MM Shield along with my Taurus PT92 I want to get another box of ammo. The following loads are at TargetSports for $40/50 round box. Which is the best to get for both of my 9MM handguns.

1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point

2) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point

3) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point

4) Federal Law Enforcement 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P HST Jacketed Hollow Point

5) Speer Gold Dot G2 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5344 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:23 pm to
Any one of those is GTG so whichever one is in stock.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4098 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:38 pm to
Palmetto State has 1000 rd FMJ for $360.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18905 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Speer Gold Dot G2 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point


Ammo chosen by USSOCOM.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12738 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:42 pm to
Barrel length? I know in an older 9mm I had with a 4 inch barrel, the higher weight bullets were better as far as hitting right where I was aiming. My current CCW is an XDs with the 3.3 inch barrel, and I use the lighter weight bullets. Currently has those Gold Dot 124 grain JHPs in it.
Posted by ml
Japan
Member since Mar 2015
133 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:54 pm to
I think hollow handgun ammo isn't allowed per Hague/Geneva? I could be wrong.

Anywho... me, personally, I don't care for +P stuff and I generally stick with the lightest grain.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89535 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:13 pm to
If I was buying for both your guns to share, I would get the normal pressure 124grain (Speer). If Federal was available in that same option (normal pressure, 124grain HST), then I would get that.

But, you've landed on these Federal and Speer options for good reason - they're the best factory 9mm for self-defense.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13881 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

3) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point

4) Federal Law Enforcement 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P HST Jacketed Hollow Point


Gonna wear out that aluminum frame on that Taurus....
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:32 pm to
Um......pretty sure the OP is Civ
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:26 pm to
So stay away from the +P loads.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27410 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Ammo chosen by USSOCOM


quote:

147 Grain


So slow you can see them in flight if the
Sun is behind you.
Posted by btforlsu
Member since Jan 2006
196 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:48 pm to
Unless you shoot +p ammo all the time, which makes absolutely no since, it will not put to much stress on your pistol. Go with the 124 +p.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:00 pm to
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So stay away from the +P loads.

Read your owner's manual. It will tell you whether or not your pistol will handle +P or +P+ loads.

If it can handle +P loads, you don't have to TRAIN with +P loads and your pistol will be perfectly fine loaded with them for real emergencies while you use FMJ rounds for training. It's long-term fire using the hotter rounds that wears pistols out faster than normal power rounds, not merely putting a few rounds of +P ammo through the pistol from time to time.

I keep my pistols loaded with 124gr +P JHP loads, but I practice with whatever FMJ rounds are cheapest. I fire maybe a magazine of the big boy rounds every month or so just to remain familiar with how they feel (because every round does feel different) and make sure my pistols/magazines don't have some issue brewing with them that may make them work fine with the FMJ rounds, but be flaky or fail with the +P JHP rounds. I'd like to discover that at the range instead of at a critical time.

That said, any round on your list should be good to go: Speer's Gold Dots and Federal's HSTs are generally regarded as the gold standards in self-defense and police duty rounds. Personally, I'd tend to favor the lighter rounds over the 147gr. Hollowpoints rely on velocity for proper expansion, so lighter bullets are easier to make move faster and get over their threshold velocity to really mushroom well. The 147gr bullets are just going to be slower by a couple hundred feet per second than the 124gr bullets; there's a limit to how much powder you can put in a cartridge and stay within its specs and if you're limited in how much push you have available, light stuff moves faster for a given amount of push. However, lighter rounds also have a harder time retaining energy going through clothing and are slowed more easily than heavier rounds would be. So, somewhere like Chicago in February, I'd probably favor the 147gr loads because they penetrate thick clothing better.

In South Louisiana, though, where we live about three feet from the sun, 124gr +P year round for me.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1578 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:20 pm to
Being I have not bought ammo for over 30 years is the $40 per 50 rounds a good or bad price. TargetSports is the only place I can find the Speer and Federal brand JHP loads. I already bought one box of the Speer 124 grain (not +P)JHP.
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3336 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:25 pm to
I think he referencing the SOCOM “endorsement”. To my knowledge only aircrew in the military can carry hp. I could be wrong though.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Being I have not bought ammo for over 30 years is the $40 per 50 rounds a good or bad price. TargetSports is the only place I can find the Speer and Federal brand JHP loads. I already bought one box of the Speer 124 grain (not +P)JHP.

Not bad at all, really. Before everything lost its mind, I was paying 75 to 80 cents for self defense ammo in 20 rd boxes (a little less if I wanted to buy hundreds of rounds at once). It hasn't gone up, percentagewise, nearly as much as FMJ target ammo has.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3008 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:22 pm to
quote:


1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point


I just got 2 boxes of these. Reloads for BS range shooting. Federal 150gr Syntech for comp.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37360 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:04 am to
quote:

Being I have not bought ammo for over 30 years is the $40 per 50 rounds a good or bad price. TargetSports is the only place I can find the Speer and Federal brand JHP loads. I already bought one box of the Speer 124 grain (not +P)JHP.


Not bad for the current market. You won't be finding any deals right now.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:16 am to
quote:

1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point


This should meet all your needs.

Make sure you run at least a mag or two through each pistol to make sure it cycles and doesn't have any malfunctions.
Posted by ConservativeBamaFan
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
1247 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:47 am to
Right now get what ever you can afford. And grab me a box to.
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