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9MM Ammo?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:14 pm
Being I got the S&W M&P 9MM Shield along with my Taurus PT92 I want to get another box of ammo. The following loads are at TargetSports for $40/50 round box. Which is the best to get for both of my 9MM handguns.
1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
2) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
3) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point
4) Federal Law Enforcement 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P HST Jacketed Hollow Point
5) Speer Gold Dot G2 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
2) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
3) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point
4) Federal Law Enforcement 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P HST Jacketed Hollow Point
5) Speer Gold Dot G2 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:23 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
Any one of those is GTG so whichever one is in stock.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:38 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
Palmetto State has 1000 rd FMJ for $360.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:38 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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Speer Gold Dot G2 9mm Luger Ammo 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
Ammo chosen by USSOCOM.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:42 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
Barrel length? I know in an older 9mm I had with a 4 inch barrel, the higher weight bullets were better as far as hitting right where I was aiming. My current CCW is an XDs with the 3.3 inch barrel, and I use the lighter weight bullets. Currently has those Gold Dot 124 grain JHPs in it.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:54 pm to jbgleason
I think hollow handgun ammo isn't allowed per Hague/Geneva? I could be wrong.
Anywho... me, personally, I don't care for +P stuff and I generally stick with the lightest grain.
Anywho... me, personally, I don't care for +P stuff and I generally stick with the lightest grain.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:13 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
If I was buying for both your guns to share, I would get the normal pressure 124grain (Speer). If Federal was available in that same option (normal pressure, 124grain HST), then I would get that.
But, you've landed on these Federal and Speer options for good reason - they're the best factory 9mm for self-defense.
But, you've landed on these Federal and Speer options for good reason - they're the best factory 9mm for self-defense.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:31 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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3) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P Jacketed Hollow Point
4) Federal Law Enforcement 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain +P HST Jacketed Hollow Point
Gonna wear out that aluminum frame on that Taurus....
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:32 pm to ml
Um......pretty sure the OP is Civ
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:26 pm to Shexter
So stay away from the +P loads.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:39 pm to jbgleason
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Ammo chosen by USSOCOM
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147 Grain
So slow you can see them in flight if the
Sun is behind you.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 5:48 pm to X123F45
Unless you shoot +p ammo all the time, which makes absolutely no since, it will not put to much stress on your pistol. Go with the 124 +p.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:00 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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So stay away from the +P loads.
Read your owner's manual. It will tell you whether or not your pistol will handle +P or +P+ loads.
If it can handle +P loads, you don't have to TRAIN with +P loads and your pistol will be perfectly fine loaded with them for real emergencies while you use FMJ rounds for training. It's long-term fire using the hotter rounds that wears pistols out faster than normal power rounds, not merely putting a few rounds of +P ammo through the pistol from time to time.
I keep my pistols loaded with 124gr +P JHP loads, but I practice with whatever FMJ rounds are cheapest. I fire maybe a magazine of the big boy rounds every month or so just to remain familiar with how they feel (because every round does feel different) and make sure my pistols/magazines don't have some issue brewing with them that may make them work fine with the FMJ rounds, but be flaky or fail with the +P JHP rounds. I'd like to discover that at the range instead of at a critical time.
That said, any round on your list should be good to go: Speer's Gold Dots and Federal's HSTs are generally regarded as the gold standards in self-defense and police duty rounds. Personally, I'd tend to favor the lighter rounds over the 147gr. Hollowpoints rely on velocity for proper expansion, so lighter bullets are easier to make move faster and get over their threshold velocity to really mushroom well. The 147gr bullets are just going to be slower by a couple hundred feet per second than the 124gr bullets; there's a limit to how much powder you can put in a cartridge and stay within its specs and if you're limited in how much push you have available, light stuff moves faster for a given amount of push. However, lighter rounds also have a harder time retaining energy going through clothing and are slowed more easily than heavier rounds would be. So, somewhere like Chicago in February, I'd probably favor the 147gr loads because they penetrate thick clothing better.
In South Louisiana, though, where we live about three feet from the sun, 124gr +P year round for me.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:20 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Being I have not bought ammo for over 30 years is the $40 per 50 rounds a good or bad price. TargetSports is the only place I can find the Speer and Federal brand JHP loads. I already bought one box of the Speer 124 grain (not +P)JHP.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:25 pm to Huntinguy
I think he referencing the SOCOM “endorsement”. To my knowledge only aircrew in the military can carry hp. I could be wrong though.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:33 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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Being I have not bought ammo for over 30 years is the $40 per 50 rounds a good or bad price. TargetSports is the only place I can find the Speer and Federal brand JHP loads. I already bought one box of the Speer 124 grain (not +P)JHP.
Not bad at all, really. Before everything lost its mind, I was paying 75 to 80 cents for self defense ammo in 20 rd boxes (a little less if I wanted to buy hundreds of rounds at once). It hasn't gone up, percentagewise, nearly as much as FMJ target ammo has.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:22 pm to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
I just got 2 boxes of these. Reloads for BS range shooting. Federal 150gr Syntech for comp.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:04 am to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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Being I have not bought ammo for over 30 years is the $40 per 50 rounds a good or bad price. TargetSports is the only place I can find the Speer and Federal brand JHP loads. I already bought one box of the Speer 124 grain (not +P)JHP.
Not bad for the current market. You won't be finding any deals right now.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:16 am to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
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1) Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 9mm Luger Ammo 124 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point
This should meet all your needs.
Make sure you run at least a mag or two through each pistol to make sure it cycles and doesn't have any malfunctions.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:47 am to RetiredSaintsLsuFan
Right now get what ever you can afford. And grab me a box to.
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