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re: 7mm-08 vs 6.5 CM for youth
Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:09 am to kengel2
Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:09 am to kengel2
I didn't go through the entire thread, and I absolutely did cherry pick some of the extremes. The .223 picture I saw had prairie dogs, that's like shooting a rabbit. The fact is, those are some of the most experienced long distance shooters, with rifles they have built, not a child.
Kids need a much larger margin of error. A bullet that is going to transfer as much energy in the animal as possible, and leave a good blood trail. A caliber that the recoil isn't going to make them nervous to pull the trigger.
7mm-08 with a good hunting bullet checks those boxes better than almost anything else. A 140gr 7-08 is just as hot, flatter, and carries more energy than a 130gr 6.5 CM, both in a Barnes TSX. Felt recoil between a 7mm-08 6.5 CM and a .243 is negligible with a decent recoil pad.
The 7mm-08 is a fantastic deer round to use at all ages, not just for kids, because as you said, it does matter where you put it, and you shouldn't need a 300 super ultra Weatherby magnum to kill a whitetail, but I will always use a good hunting bullet.
Kids need a much larger margin of error. A bullet that is going to transfer as much energy in the animal as possible, and leave a good blood trail. A caliber that the recoil isn't going to make them nervous to pull the trigger.
7mm-08 with a good hunting bullet checks those boxes better than almost anything else. A 140gr 7-08 is just as hot, flatter, and carries more energy than a 130gr 6.5 CM, both in a Barnes TSX. Felt recoil between a 7mm-08 6.5 CM and a .243 is negligible with a decent recoil pad.
The 7mm-08 is a fantastic deer round to use at all ages, not just for kids, because as you said, it does matter where you put it, and you shouldn't need a 300 super ultra Weatherby magnum to kill a whitetail, but I will always use a good hunting bullet.
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Posted on 12/15/24 at 11:50 am to Citica8
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Kids need a much larger margin of error. A bullet that is going to transfer as much energy in the animal as possible, and leave a good blood trail. A caliber that the recoil isn't going to make them nervous to pull the trigger.
I agree with everything you've posted. For the OP, either caliber is fine. 7-08 has been around for a long time and there would be no way I'd talk him out of that caliber if that's what he wants. Same thing with the creedmoor.
My comment was to the guy saying he's seen enough stories about 6.5 creedmoor and blood trails which are probably all bs anyway. I tried to jump in at the end where all the bs starts. I'm just providing proof that anything can kill and it's probably people thinking their skills are way better than they actually are.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 12:04 pm to kengel2
7mm08 and 6.5 cm are ballisticly the same. The 7mm08 can shoot heavier bullets which provides more energy.
I'd never pick a 6.5 over a 7mm unless it was 6.5x55.
My daughter 14, and my son 10 shoot a 270 and 7mm rem mag. Both rifles are custom and are set up to have less recoil than a 6.5cm. Not saying to go out and get a custom rifle. Recoil is subjective with those 2 calibers.
I'd never pick a 6.5 over a 7mm unless it was 6.5x55.
My daughter 14, and my son 10 shoot a 270 and 7mm rem mag. Both rifles are custom and are set up to have less recoil than a 6.5cm. Not saying to go out and get a custom rifle. Recoil is subjective with those 2 calibers.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 1:13 pm to saintsfan1977
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I'd never pick a 6.5 over a 7mm unless it was 6.5x55.
Ballistically the 6.5cm and the 6.5 Swede are identical.
Both are shooting a 140gr bullet at 2650fps.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 2:02 pm to bbvdd
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Ballistically the 6.5cm and the 6.5 Swede are identical.
I'd take the one that's been around for 100 years.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:40 pm to saintsfan1977
The knock on the swede is factory ammo availability, even online is pretty scarce. If you hand load that's a completely different situation, but if you hand load you're probably not weighing out the pros and cons of two factory available calibers for your kid.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:12 pm to sonoma8
7.08 no to SST.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:32 pm to Citica8
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The knock on the swede is factory ammo availability, even online is pretty scarce.
Its not bad at all. It's immensely popular in Europe so ammo availability has been fairly consistent for a long time now. Its not 6.5 creedmoor availability, but its not hard to find. If you handload, you can get some dramatic improvement over the creedmoor since they always have long throats and are chambered in long action rifles.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 12:05 am to Citica8
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but if you hand load you're probably not weighing out the pros and cons of two factory available calibers for your kid.
Yes. 7mm08 all day, every day.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 7:39 am to sonoma8
Dropped him this morning in his tracks with my 7mm-08.130yds with 150gr Norma whitetails
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:32 am to jmh5724
Shot a big doe yesterday evening with a 7-08 in 150gr and she dropped right where I shot her.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 1:54 pm to jmh5724
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Dropped him this morning in his tracks with my 7mm-08.
Be glad you aren't using the 6.5cm. You'd still be chasing him lol.
So I'm looking at 2 rifles. 7mm-08 Remington 700. No telling how many rounds through it. Used. Or a brand new tikka t3x 243. Both would be used by me and my kids but more of a target gun. We use the 270 and 7mm rem mag for killing animals. Which would you get?
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:06 pm to jmh5724
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Dropped him this morning in his tracks with my 7mm-08.130yds with 150gr Norma whitetails
Are you 12yrs old? That’s a kids rifle. I’m surprised it didn’t bounce off the hide. Jk
Nice buck by the way it’s almost a LP parish record!!
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:17 pm to saintsfan1977
How old is the Rem 700?
for paper punching the .243 would be the better rifle provided the barrel had the proper twist rate.
for paper punching the .243 would be the better rifle provided the barrel had the proper twist rate.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:19 pm to bbvdd
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How old is the Rem 700?
for paper punching the .243 would be the better rifle provided the barrel had the proper twist rate.
Remington is at least 15 years old but really no idea.
The tikka should have an 8 twist I believe.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:29 pm to saintsfan1977
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Remington is at least 15 years old but really no idea.
I'd want at least 20-25 yr.
Although if cheap enough, you could always have it blueprinted and rebarreled into whatever you want (with a .308 size bolt).
Posted on 12/16/24 at 2:34 pm to bbvdd
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Although if cheap enough, you could always have it blueprinted and rebarreled into whatever you want (with a .308 size bolt).
Guy wants to trade with me. My rifle is worth 1.5x his. The tikka 243 is only 600 bucks still in the box
Posted on 12/16/24 at 3:06 pm to saintsfan1977
Straight up? To send send it to Longrifles Inc to get blueprinted it will cost you around $250 unless you need to time the bolt as well, then add another $100.
Then you'd need to get it refinished (I cerakoted both of mine, myself).
Pointing back to the Tikka.
Then you'd need to get it refinished (I cerakoted both of mine, myself).
Pointing back to the Tikka.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:06 pm to saintsfan1977
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The tikka should have an 8 twist I believe.
If it’s an off the shelf tikka T3x lite 243 it’s gonna have a 1:10 twist and won’t be threaded. The roughtechs and varmit models are 1:8 twist, heavier profile, and are usually threaded 5/8-24. Those would make a better combo deer killer/paper puncher than the lite, but usually cost quite a bit more. If he’s asking $600 for one buy it and don’t look back.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:27 pm to saintsfan1977
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Which would you get?
The tikka. Its so much of a better rifle.
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