- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
1
Posted on 8/1/24 at 1:49 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
I am just stating facts. Kos was another gold just now who swims at ASU and now at Texas. Just frustrating to see our country train athletes who beat us.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:17 pm to rpg37
Douglass wins Olympic Gold in women's 200m breast. 
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:18 pm to rpg37
I don't get it. You have coaches from other nationalities training a diverse group of athletes. This is nothing new.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:25 pm to rpg37
I’m, genuinely, not asking this to be offensive or anything so I apologize if this question comes off dickish. Just curious. Do you keep up with Olympic sports much outside of the Olympics?
I think this is just a function of us being the best country in the world. Everyone wants to be here. So we draw both athletes and coaches from other countries. On the track side there’s a not insignificant amount of international coaches in the ncaa (I was coached by a Hungarian my first two years) on top of all of the international athletes. The USA is a draw because it’s a land of opportunity. People want to be here regardless if it’s to train, coach, or whatever else. What you’re upset about is just a side effect of that, I think.
I think this is just a function of us being the best country in the world. Everyone wants to be here. So we draw both athletes and coaches from other countries. On the track side there’s a not insignificant amount of international coaches in the ncaa (I was coached by a Hungarian my first two years) on top of all of the international athletes. The USA is a draw because it’s a land of opportunity. People want to be here regardless if it’s to train, coach, or whatever else. What you’re upset about is just a side effect of that, I think.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:37 pm to Pedro
I am a collegiate swim coach. I have spoken within the coaching community extensively on this topic and have posted this inside TD before. The issue is the amount of international talent at the D1 level in the Olympic Sports. Five decades ago it was extremely limited. Now, almost 50% of our swimming is international from top to bottom. This squeezes out much American talent. Some very good coaches who were slower to adapt like Reese or Hollaway and others started to fall behinf at the NCAA level and were forced into transitioing, but they did not like the Olympic result of the decision. That is all I am saying.
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:41 pm to rpg37
quote:
Just frustrating to see our country train athletes who beat us.
Isn't our current men's coach a foreigner who beat us
As to summer moving to FL at 15 to train, again, didn't our current men's coach 
you act like it's not beneficial for us to train with/against these people. I bet Ledecky loved racing Summer at some mid arse Florida meets the last year or so.Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:16 pm to REG861
Women's 800 free relay gets the silver. Nice swim.
Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:20 pm to rpg37
I can understand that completely.
It’s an unfortunate consequence of the pressure put on coaches to win at all costs. On one end it’s great for some of these athletes (especially the ones that want to work for it) to have a chance to leave some rough situations in their home countries and have opportunities to better themselves. It’s frustrating it comes at the cost of giving athletes born and raised here opportunities. It’ll never happen but I would be a huge proponent of having domestic caps in the ncaa where ~75% of your scholarship allotment has to go to American students. Of course it would instantly be labeled as racist by a segment of our population but it would be great for us in the long run as a nation, I think.
It’s an unfortunate consequence of the pressure put on coaches to win at all costs. On one end it’s great for some of these athletes (especially the ones that want to work for it) to have a chance to leave some rough situations in their home countries and have opportunities to better themselves. It’s frustrating it comes at the cost of giving athletes born and raised here opportunities. It’ll never happen but I would be a huge proponent of having domestic caps in the ncaa where ~75% of your scholarship allotment has to go to American students. Of course it would instantly be labeled as racist by a segment of our population but it would be great for us in the long run as a nation, I think.
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:36 pm to Carolhdg
The U S had a great day on Thursday, going from 7th to 2nd in golds.
Medals:
Gold
Artistic Gymnastics, all around – Simone Biles
Women’s 200m breaststroke – Kate Douglass
Fencing, Women's Foil Team – Kiefer, Scruggs, Dubrovich, Weintraub
Rowing, Men’s Four – Mead, Best, Grady, Corrigan
First rowing gold since 1960
Silver
Women's 100m Backstroke - Regan Smith
Women's 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay Final – Weinstein, Madden, Ledecky, Gemmell
Bronze
Artistic Gymnastics, all around - Sunisa Lee
Medals:
Gold
Artistic Gymnastics, all around – Simone Biles
Women’s 200m breaststroke – Kate Douglass
Fencing, Women's Foil Team – Kiefer, Scruggs, Dubrovich, Weintraub
Rowing, Men’s Four – Mead, Best, Grady, Corrigan
First rowing gold since 1960
Silver
Women's 100m Backstroke - Regan Smith
Women's 4 x 200m Freestyle Relay Final – Weinstein, Madden, Ledecky, Gemmell
Bronze
Artistic Gymnastics, all around - Sunisa Lee
Posted on 8/1/24 at 4:44 pm to rpg37
Five decades ago the US was the only country to care about collegiate athletics, and we still care. The rest of the world started caring more about professional athletics outside of soccer because it meant free education and a job in the US.
You're a swim coach so you are results driven. Compare two athletes and one has a faster set of times than the other, but the faster one is not from the US. You wouldn't actually disregard a scholarship towards them because of their nationality.
And again, why on earth would someone who is a competitive swimmer train in Ontario regularly?
quote:
This squeezes out much American talent
You're a swim coach so you are results driven. Compare two athletes and one has a faster set of times than the other, but the faster one is not from the US. You wouldn't actually disregard a scholarship towards them because of their nationality.
And again, why on earth would someone who is a competitive swimmer train in Ontario regularly?
Posted on 8/1/24 at 4:58 pm to Carolhdg
Points update (minimum 10 medals):
10 gold, 5 silver, 3 bronze
USA: 204
China: 163
France: 159
Australia: 122
GBR: 116
Japan: 110
Italy: 97
S Korea: 84
3 gold, 2 silver, 1 bronze
USA: 70
France: 54
China: 53
Australia: 40
GBR: 39
Japan: 35
Italy: 33
S Korea: 27
10 gold, 5 silver, 3 bronze
USA: 204
China: 163
France: 159
Australia: 122
GBR: 116
Japan: 110
Italy: 97
S Korea: 84
3 gold, 2 silver, 1 bronze
USA: 70
France: 54
China: 53
Australia: 40
GBR: 39
Japan: 35
Italy: 33
S Korea: 27
Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:55 pm to Carolhdg
China with 7 gold medals in diving and shooting.
Someone call John Wick.
Someone call John Wick.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:30 am to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:
I don't get it. You have coaches from other nationalities training a diverse group of athletes. This is nothing new.
Exactly. And we also have coaches that leave the US and go coach athletes in other countries. Colleges recruit from all over the world to get the best team they can, no matter what the sport is. It's just not a big deal and it's also not a new concept.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:37 am to Pedro
quote:
huge proponent of having domestic caps in the ncaa where ~75% of your scholarship allotment has to go to American students.
Yes, to this, because I think the scholarship money is a bigger problem than the number of foreign athletes on NCAA teams. I'm thinking of sports that are not head count sports, most of the Olympic ones. For example, the school my daughter (no pics) went to had a lot of foreign swimmers, especially on their men's team. We did very well and always went to and sometimes one DII Nationals, in both men's and women's swimming and diving. The foreign athletes got proportionally more money than the American ones. The American kids got smaller scholarships (my daughter got $7000/yr for diving) and were generally expected to combine that with some pretty good academic money this school had available. The foreign athletes got much larger scholarships.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 1:33 pm to LaLadyinTx
Dressell going for the 50m free now. Let's go! Total crap shoot on this one.
No medal in the event...led at the 20m marker. 6th overall and .05 from bronze.
No medal in the event...led at the 20m marker. 6th overall and .05 from bronze.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 8/2/24 at 1:44 pm to rpg37
US women go 2-4 in the 200m back. I thought it as 2-3....man, close. Smith earns the silver.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 3:47 pm to Carolhdg
Today's medals:
Silver
Equestrian, Jumping Team – Kraut/Baloutinue, Cook/Caracole de la Roque, Ward/Ilex
Shooting, 50m Rifle 3 positions – Sagen Maddalena
Women’s 200m Backstroke, Regan Smith
Bronze
Archery, Mixed Team – Kaufhold, Ellison
Sailing, Men’s Skiff – Barrows, Henken
Athletics, Men’s 10,000m – Grant Fisher
Silver
Equestrian, Jumping Team – Kraut/Baloutinue, Cook/Caracole de la Roque, Ward/Ilex
Shooting, 50m Rifle 3 positions – Sagen Maddalena
Women’s 200m Backstroke, Regan Smith
Bronze
Archery, Mixed Team – Kaufhold, Ellison
Sailing, Men’s Skiff – Barrows, Henken
Athletics, Men’s 10,000m – Grant Fisher
Posted on 8/2/24 at 4:06 pm to Carolhdg
quote:
Athletics, Men’s 10,000m – Grant Fisher
Not a huge upset, but that's not a medal the US was expecting.
Posted on 8/2/24 at 6:03 pm to TigerFanatic99
I mean it was a decent upset. Not very many were expecting him to factor in here. Especially once the race took off the way it did
Page 2 of 9
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News