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re: Who here works for BP?

Posted on 6/3/10 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by Luke4LSU
Member since Oct 2007
11986 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 11:31 pm to
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First of all, you need to chill the frick out in every thread on here.


GFY.

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why the hell would we turn the spill response over to people who don't know shite about oil?


Are you serious? That's just silly.

When there's an 86 car pile up on the interstate, do we call Toyota to come clean it up because they "know shite about cars"?

Drilling tiny holes thousands of feet through rock and hitting a precise target is BP's job.

Disaster response is not their expertise by any stretch of the imagination. If it was, we would have contacted BP to help us after Katrina.

This response is about logistics, red-tape, metocean analysis, procurement, adn organization...none of which requires much expertise in drilling holes.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54158 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 11:38 pm to
Your analogy is fricking stupid. In a pile up they are not trying to fix the cars. We need to cap off this well and dilute/clean up the oil before it hits land(yes I know a lot of it already has). The coast guard does not know a damn thing about oil, BP does. They are the best ones to be working on this
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 6/3/10 at 11:54 pm to
Neck, I'm gonna go ahead and say that you should probably back down on this one.

Luke is pretty qualified in this area.
Posted by RighteousTiger
Member since Nov 2009
693 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 2:55 am to
I bet a million dollars "Cosmo" does
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10719 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 4:07 am to
So you would be in favor of turning this over to some one who has admitted they don't have any answers as to how to stop this blow out?

Do you people think there is some super company out there that can just sweep in and kill this well? You can't just snap your fingers and they can just try some new. It takes time to change the plan.

There is no one else out there that has any answers! All the majors are already there giving BP advice!

You guys just don't understand what's involved with an operation like this and how difficult it is.

I do agree that the clean up should be taken over by the government though with BP footing the bill.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10719 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 4:07 am to
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Neck, I'm gonna go ahead and say that you should probably back down on this one.

Luke is pretty qualified in this area.


Maybe so but he's wrong!
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 5:22 am to
I've contracted for them on drilling ops before. My experience with them was that they were as focused on safety as any of the other majors. The company men that I worked with were pretty good guys (personality wise) and were knowledgable in their field. I haven't worked for them in several years, so maybe it's changed from when I was out there.

I've heard different things about their land rigs, but land has always been a different beast all together.

On the way home for lunch yesterday, I had 3 phone calls (1 from a BP rep, and 2 from temp agencies they are using to get contract workers) offering me a position. I spoke with all 3 of them, answered and asked questions, and told them to keep my name handy if they finalized some of their plans.

Would I work for them? Depends on the situation. Right now, I've got a pretty solid job with a major in cased hole, so permit issues aren't shutting us down. I work in town, 20 minutes from home, and get to tuck my kids in every night. Unless they bumped the pay significantly, it's not worth leaving a permanent gig for a temp one.

Point is: I didn't say no because they're BP. I handled it like any other company calling and offering me work.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31884 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 6:13 am to
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There is no one else out there that has any answers! All the majors are already there giving BP advice!


As someone that works for one of the other majors, I can unequivocally say this is the case. Everyone in the business wants this stopped in the worst possible way-our collective futures in the business (in the US) are riding on the outcome.

And Luke, I share much of your passion. Spending time on the coast chasing specks, reds and snapper, my #1 hobby is at risk of being gone, maybe for years. The pictures of areas I know so well being impacted nauseates me. But we can always finger point later-the government and courts will help direct those fingers as time goes on. For now, let's get this beast under control and let all those people working their arses off (including Tony), get this fixed.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 7:08 am to
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My beef with BP is that they're making everyone in the O&G industry look stupid


Huh? How is that? Nobody else knows enough to make any kind of accurate, constructive criticism beyond "fix it".

The people who look stupid are the ones braying about how BP should turn it over to government agencies that know nothing about capping a blowout.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66667 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 8:20 am to
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This response is about logistics, red-tape, metocean analysis, procurement, adn organization...none of which requires much expertise in drilling holes.


Well the govt certainly isn't know for these above things
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:22 am to
As a show of good faith to the people of Louisiana, BP should move it's US corporate offices to either Laffy or NOLA, whichever is best for them. It would demonstrate that the company is in it with us for the long haul.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66667 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:32 am to
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BP should move it's US corporate offices to either Laffy or NOLA, whichever is best for them. It would demonstrate that the company is in it with us for the long haul


Do you know how many people are in the Houston corporate office?

Also, no one wants their business in Louisiana anyways.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:37 am to
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BP should move it's US corporate offices to either Laffy or NOLA, whichever is best for them.


sounds like a great idea... I hear property values in oil soaked areas are pretty low, they could move on the cheap now that they've ruined our state.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86474 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Luke is pretty qualified in this area.
You would not know it from his posts. Some truly stupid shite in here. Agenda/bias with no backing. Had I not been a long term member, I would think the guy is one of the bigger douches on the board based on these posts.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:41 am to
yep, and if they leave the oil there long enough, it will make a nice long asphalt walkway on the coast.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:43 am to
I have no idea how many people, my guess is 3-4k. Cost of moving them is chicken scratch compared to what this disaster will end up costing the company. Seems like a reasonable and responsible move to me, of course BP has been anything but reasonable/responsible, so why start now.

Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:43 am to
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yep, and if they leave the oil there long enough, it will make a nice long asphalt walkway on the coast.

they don't even have to lay a parking lot! That's convenient.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:44 am to
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of course BP has been anything but reasonable/responsible, so why start now.


exactly. my opinion is to kick BP out of the US once this cleanup is done. Sell their leases to more responsible companies. 3 strikes; they're out.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66667 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:44 am to
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I have no idea how many people, my guess is 3-4k.




It is about double or triple that.
This post was edited on 6/4/10 at 9:46 am
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8748 posts
Posted on 6/4/10 at 9:45 am to
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I have no idea how many people, my guess is 3-4k. Cost of moving them is chicken scratch compared to what this disaster will end up costing the company. Seems like a reasonable and responsible move to me, of course BP has been anything but reasonable/responsible, so why start now.


This may be a shock to some but a lot of businesses detest doing business in Louisiana, and especially for an oil company south Louisiana. The history of corruption is long and distinguished in our state unfortunately. Not to mention that employees in Texas pay no state income taxes.
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