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van Heerden says oil is no big deal
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 7/10/10 at 1:44 pm to Charles Bronson
The wackos will not like what the Prof is saying 
Posted on 7/10/10 at 1:49 pm to Charles Bronson
That is surprising......I thought him an allarmist in the worst sense.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 2:10 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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"The public gets the perception that this is the black, heavy, tarry stuff that is in ship's bunkers and it covers everything and smothers it and just kills it, but that's not the kind of oil we're dealing with," Van Heerden says in a video on the BP website, dated July 1. "It's a very, very light oil. It's almost like diesel, and it breaks down very, very rapidly, especially here in Louisiana where it's very hot during the day and the water has suspended sediment in it so it may actually get hotter, and all of those combine with the fact that we have naturally in our system, the organisms, the microbes that break down the oil."
finally someone can put into words what I have been preaching the past 2 weeks
Posted on 7/10/10 at 2:11 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Great article.
A couple of things I gathered from it.
This guy is probably going to lose his job because of his statements and views (Katrina/N.O. levees). So that shows me that he believes what he says and doesn't let politics and being fired affect his integrity.
He was critical of the Corps of Eng.'s but his stand is that this oil isn't killing the marsh grass roots. He says it has greened back up after dying from the oil.
I don't know if it is 100% but that matched my observations of Queen Bess Island when I visited it a while back. I wanted to see it because I knew it had been heavily oiled. I wasn't able to get on the island because I was in a BP boat and they aren't allowed to do that. So I had to make my accessment from a distance and that accessment alone isn't worth much due to not getting close enough. But it is encouraging to hear his true research matches what I THOUGHT I was seeing at the time.
Most of the oil is on the beaches it says in the article. This would have to mean that the capturing of the oil over the last week by boom and skimmers has been pretty effective lately. Obviously not in the early stages. This is what I would have expected after seeing the setup they had around grand isle. But of course IF there is better defenses in different places then obviously GI will be at the top of the list and not the bottom.
A couple of things I gathered from it.
This guy is probably going to lose his job because of his statements and views (Katrina/N.O. levees). So that shows me that he believes what he says and doesn't let politics and being fired affect his integrity.
He was critical of the Corps of Eng.'s but his stand is that this oil isn't killing the marsh grass roots. He says it has greened back up after dying from the oil.
I don't know if it is 100% but that matched my observations of Queen Bess Island when I visited it a while back. I wanted to see it because I knew it had been heavily oiled. I wasn't able to get on the island because I was in a BP boat and they aren't allowed to do that. So I had to make my accessment from a distance and that accessment alone isn't worth much due to not getting close enough. But it is encouraging to hear his true research matches what I THOUGHT I was seeing at the time.
Most of the oil is on the beaches it says in the article. This would have to mean that the capturing of the oil over the last week by boom and skimmers has been pretty effective lately. Obviously not in the early stages. This is what I would have expected after seeing the setup they had around grand isle. But of course IF there is better defenses in different places then obviously GI will be at the top of the list and not the bottom.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 2:35 pm to omegaman66
Guy's consistent. He says what he thinks, the ramifications be damned.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 3:47 pm to omegaman66
I thought he lost his job a few years ago from LSU.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 3:49 pm to notiger1997
He did. He's suing LSU over it.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 3:58 pm to CE Tiger
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finally someone can put into words what I have been preaching the past 2 weeks
Hell, I have been saying from almost the get-go that the biggest problem ecologically from this will be from oxygen depletion that comes with the natural degradation of the oil.
Some microbiologists think that it might not be as bad as it seems in that regard either, due to some unforeseen consequences. Don't remember what those were though...I am relaying that information second hand.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:02 pm to Volvagia
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Some microbiologists think that it might not be as bad as it seems in that regard either, due to some unforeseen consequences.
Don't tell that to odummy and the eco nuts, they are hoping for disaster. I wish articles like this would get more run than the doomsday scenarios they run ad nauseum on the nightly entertainment(news).
This post was edited on 7/10/10 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:08 pm to TJG210
I can understand that maybe the light oil that we are seeing not really being a huge issue, but what about the heavy stuff under water? Or is there really not that much heavy stuff?
I still feel that the economic impact is going to be 100X worse than the ecological one. In this state it will be mostly due to the deepwater drilling ban. Bama and Florida are taking it from having about a 70% lower tourist season.
The only huge worry I have now as far as wildlife is how the brown pelican nesting areas are affected and how the oysters handle this.
I still feel that the economic impact is going to be 100X worse than the ecological one. In this state it will be mostly due to the deepwater drilling ban. Bama and Florida are taking it from having about a 70% lower tourist season.
The only huge worry I have now as far as wildlife is how the brown pelican nesting areas are affected and how the oysters handle this.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:08 pm to TJG210
Otto is probably still waiting for the trail of death to start that will kill off the coral reefs in Florida as it passes there en route up the seaboard
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:09 pm to notiger1997
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heavy stuff under water?
oil floats
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:10 pm to CE Tiger
Yeah, I kind of new that. I just still assumed there were big blobs out there of heavy stuff somewhere. It is great if that is not the case.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:12 pm to notiger1997
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I can understand that maybe the light oil that we are seeing not really being a huge issue, but what about the heavy stuff under water?
Most of it seems to be staying in a zone where there is essentially no life anyway, so the ecological impact is marginal.
If it tries to move up the continental shelf there might be problems, but the fact that the Chicken Littles haven't started running around like they have had their heads cut off suggests to me that it is not moving towards any coast ATM.
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I still feel that the economic impact is going to be 100X worse than the ecological one.
This.
And BP is apparently building a case (as they should), that the economic impact was grossly amplified by both the media and inept government response.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:13 pm to notiger1997
i still dont have a definite answer on whether or not there are blobs underwater I have seen areas where oil seems to just pop up but those are few and far between.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:14 pm to CE Tiger
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oil floats
For clarification, I am referring to the oil plumes that were reported as staying around 3000 feet
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:38 pm to Volvagia
Damn it where is Charles now with all that screaming about GOM being destroyed.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:39 pm to Volvagia
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For clarification, I am referring to the oil plumes that were reported as staying around 3000 feet
I wonder if those plumes (if they really exist) are emulsions caused by the undersea dispersants and are not light enough to get past the thermocline.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:43 pm to MountainTiger
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I wonder if those plumes (if they really exist) are emulsions caused by the undersea dispersants and are not light enough to get past the thermocline.
That was my estimation of them TBH.
It only formed after they started pumping dispersants 24/7 at the vent site.
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