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Someone please dispell this
Posted on 7/5/10 at 8:56 am
Posted on 7/5/10 at 8:56 am
Spoke with a BP lawyer today at a dinner. He said that "only" roughly 10.000 barrels had reached shore, celebrity pelicans and other animals have been used by news reports and the EPA's restriction on COREXIT had prevented the complete isolation of oil from shore. Further COREXIT has a toxicity level of .02 compared to common dishwashing liquid. Anyone care to present credible evidence to contradict?
He also said Heyward is gone 3 months after capping the well and BP will present evidence to show how the EPA and the media are the major cause for most of the revenue lost from fishing, tourism and other industry. Heyward is going to be the scapegoat for BP for thier PR.
He also said Heyward is gone 3 months after capping the well and BP will present evidence to show how the EPA and the media are the major cause for most of the revenue lost from fishing, tourism and other industry. Heyward is going to be the scapegoat for BP for thier PR.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 8:59 am
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:04 am to C
Despite my inherent distrust of lawyers, I am inclined to believe this.
There is certainly little doubt that the government's "response" (or lack thereof) is at least as much of a factor as the spill itself.
There is certainly little doubt that the government's "response" (or lack thereof) is at least as much of a factor as the spill itself.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 9:13 am
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:06 am to C
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BP will present evidence to show how the EPA and the media are the major cause for most of the revenue lost from fishing, tourism and other industry
EPA and the media made the countless human mistakes in going forward with operations on April 19th-20th?
The "major cause" of this was putting oil on the water. You know how the pundits react C.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:31 am to C
Obviously the primary cause was having the spill in the first place. Duh.
But the various groups that make a living hyping things up to much worse than they ever really were significantly contribute to the problem.
By the way, these groups do indeed make a living at sensationalism. Times like these are when they can market the hell out of themselves to get more donations and grants. They have as much conflict of interest as anyone.
But the various groups that make a living hyping things up to much worse than they ever really were significantly contribute to the problem.
By the way, these groups do indeed make a living at sensationalism. Times like these are when they can market the hell out of themselves to get more donations and grants. They have as much conflict of interest as anyone.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:08 am to foshizzle
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these groups do indeed make a living at sensationalism
They sure shite in their chili with the swine flu scare but yet they can do this day in and day out yet answer to no one if they're wrong.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:10 am to Homesick Tiger
Who would crack down on it? obama cheered the swine flu hysteria on.....
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:17 am to TJG210
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Who would crack down on it?
As I said, no one. The media and politicians have carte blanche to make all the unfounded rumors they want without being held accountable for malicious or misleading statements. Just something we have to live with I guess.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 11:54 am to C
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celebrity pelicans
I hear there's a sex tape floating around.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:34 pm to wilceaux
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and BP will present evidence to show how the EPA and the media are the major cause for most of the revenue lost from fishing, tourism and other industry
Thanks for this. I have been saying this all along. The recreational fishing ban in Louisiana is rediculous. Ban access to areas if you must but there is not danger in eating the fish. This is what the scientist predicted. This is what the scientist have found when testing tissue samples. Yet the waters are closed.
Can anyone think of anything else the government can do to make matters worse that they have not already done?
Closing recreational fishing.
Deny Florida and Louisiana request for equipment, resources, permits.
Deny offers to help.
Close drilling offshore without any justification or proof that a company such as Shell or ExxonMobil are doing things wrong like was done in this case.
And the media... frick the news cast programs that put morons that work at Denny's on the air so they can give their vast knowlege about how the seafood shortage will be felt for decades and may never come back. Up yours dickhead it will come back just as soon as the goverenment gets out of the way.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 2:33 pm to C
Like I have said since day one..dont believe the hype. BP will come out smelling like a rose once this is all said and done. Things are NEVER as bad as they appear to be.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 4:01 pm to C
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celebrity pelicans
I've helped de-oil over 200 brown pelicans through the Louisiana State Animal Response Team. I know over 1000 have been cleaned and there are many more to come. They find more dead than alive. I agree the media is making it seem like it's a big deal, but it IS a big deal. Celebrity pelicans my arse, get your butt down there and look at the devastation, it's real buddy.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 4:03 pm to TigerSkin12
It's because of the media that the people of the US know about the spill. If they wouldn't be digging, this would be one of the largest cover-ups in US history. I myself am aggravated by the media for always being around while we're working, but I know it's for the best that the word gets out.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 4:07 pm to omegaman66
This is really quite comical 
Posted on 7/5/10 at 4:28 pm to TigerSkin12
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They find more dead than alive
Well thats probably because the live ones aren't as easy to catch.
BP screwed up big time and should pay, I'm just trying to determine if the media and the government are making this disaster much worse than it needs to be. I mean, what scientific evidence supports the closing of fishing in the effected areas? I have seen nothing showing fish eaten that are in the effected waters are dangerous to people. I can see closing down some areas that could hamper the cleanup and containement effort, but beyond that, it seems their is no logic behind it.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 5:10 pm to C
My thought process on why they're closing some of the fishing areas is so that they can tell the consumer that they are eating un-oiled fish. If it's all open, (even though it's safe to eat) people will stop buying seafood because there is a chance that the fish may have swam in the oil. People have their own opinions on things whether it's true or not.
And as far as the finding more dead than alive. You're right, i meant to say that more birds come in dead than alive. With thousands of birds coming in alive, that's just saying that even more birds have died.
And as far as the finding more dead than alive. You're right, i meant to say that more birds come in dead than alive. With thousands of birds coming in alive, that's just saying that even more birds have died.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 5:11 pm to C
LDWF by their own statements have admitted that the recreational closures are NOT TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC. They are closing all these waters because they are afraid someone might drag a fish through oil on the way to the boat and that while cleaning the fish that some of the fish might get contaminated and that might make the fish taste bad but would not be a health concern.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 5:52 pm to omegaman66
They're burning animals out at sea..thousands of them..corexit is a deadly poison, methane is an oncoming disaster, clean-up crews are inner city criminals, Thad Allen is a traitor,a liar, and a BP shill and the Coast Guard has become a thug mercenary army to forcibly prevent any real progress in stopping this oil.
The EPA is lying through its teeth,the Corps of Engineers deliberately impedes any good plan of action with ridiculous and ,of course, costly "studies". With the entire government obstructing anything the desperate locals want to do, you got to ask yourself why.
So who does this poster work for..he can't possibly be as naive as he sounds. The information I have listed is easily found on an internet search. There is much much more..so do a google or just listen to WWL..BP lies and government obstruction is endless and deliberate.
"Who's in Charge" B.Nungesser
The EPA is lying through its teeth,the Corps of Engineers deliberately impedes any good plan of action with ridiculous and ,of course, costly "studies". With the entire government obstructing anything the desperate locals want to do, you got to ask yourself why.
So who does this poster work for..he can't possibly be as naive as he sounds. The information I have listed is easily found on an internet search. There is much much more..so do a google or just listen to WWL..BP lies and government obstruction is endless and deliberate.
"Who's in Charge" B.Nungesser
Posted on 7/5/10 at 6:32 pm to mentalis
Posted on 7/5/10 at 8:05 pm to C
Hah, you guys have no idea what's going on down there, not a clue.
Posted on 7/7/10 at 11:09 am to TigerSkin12
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I've helped de-oil over 200 brown pelicans through the Louisiana State Animal Response Team. I know over 1000 have been cleaned and there are many more to come. They find more dead than alive. I agree the media is making it seem like it's a big deal, but it IS a big deal. Celebrity pelicans my arse, get your butt down there and look at the devastation, it's real buddy.
Uh oh....somebody's exaggerating
1,000's? Really? Now, I have no doubt that you are doing a great service, but tis no time to exaggerate my friend... More Like 601 total....Cleaned and Dead....
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