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re: People boycotting BP

Posted on 6/9/10 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34157 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 11:18 am to
I see it on people facebook statuses damn near everyday
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 11:18 am to
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And your community, and your schools, property values, etc..... Damn some people really are dumb as rocks.


yep. you just pegged all the liberals in the US. The couldn't spell economy if you spot them the E and the o.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 11:19 am to
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I cannot believe this boycott bp crap still got legs

i can, given the complexities of the industry and the ignorance of the general public -- not necessarily all of it being their fault. as an industry, we really haven't explained this ever.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 11:22 am to
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I see it on people facebook statuses damn near everyday


sounds like you have some misinformed friends as do i. I get the same daily and debated one of them the other day. he knew i worked in the industry. but like Oilfield tiger says, we haven't explained our processes.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 11:24 am to
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we haven't explained our processes.


it's simple economics. It's sad, I always assumed a general level of intelligence of the population that was able to comprehend simple concepts like macro and micro economics. I vastly overestimated, vastly
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:10 pm to
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Boycott BP (gas stations), ruin a business in YOUR community that provides employment and tax revenue.

You think they are going to buy gas over the internet? They will just buy gas somewhere else in the community. If a station goes under and it had been profitable, the most likely replacement is different owner and brand.
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Idiots fail to comprehend this concept. But then again emotional reaction is better than logic
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:16 pm to
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You think they are going to buy gas over the internet? They will just buy gas somewhere else in the community. If a station goes under and it had been profitable, the most likely replacement is different owner and brand.


You really have no idea.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:19 pm to
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You really have no idea.

What is your idea?
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:24 pm to
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They will just buy gas somewhere else in the community. If a station goes under and it had been profitable, the most likely replacement is different owner and brand


and that would accomplish zero. BP sells to all these stations. So is your plan to boycott all these stations and ride your bike?

oh don't buy any plastics, cars, or other household items b/c there is bp products in those as well.
This post was edited on 6/9/10 at 1:31 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
59297 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:33 pm to
Everyone who has contributed in anyway to the ban BP gas station stuff should be slapped across the face with a shite filled sock.
Unreal that in this day and age there are still so many uninformed people out there.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:51 pm to
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and that would accomplish zero. BP sells to all these stations. So is your plan to boycott all these stations and ride your bike?

oh don't buy any plastics, cars, or other household items b/c there is bp products in those as well.

I take no position on whether people should boycott BP or not. I'm just stating some facts. First, a boycott can never run them out of business or threaten them financially, but you can cost them some money. In addition there are other utility reasons why people may choose to boycott them. Feeling better is a legitimate reason in and of itself.

WRT money, the oil companies don't operate gas stations as loss leaders to monetize crude. These stations must make a profit or they will shut them down. By boycotting a BP station, you are denying them the profits they would earn on those sales. In the overall scheme it's not a lot, but it is real money. This is true regardless of which company actually produced the product for a BP branded station.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12590 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:55 pm to
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you just pegged all the liberals in the US.


Don't be a hack.
Most of my FB friends that have "Boycott BP" on their page are right-wingers.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:57 pm to
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Most of my FB friends that have "Boycott BP" on their page are right-wingers.



stupidity knows no political bounds.....
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12590 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:58 pm to
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stupidity knows no political bounds.....


yep, exactly my point
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 1:59 pm to
yeah b/c there is a lot of stupid right wingers as well. most of them happen to be the flaming libs.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:03 pm to
so most of the owners will change over to shell or exxon. not a big deal for the business owner b/c they are in business to make profit. BP will still sale their crude to these stations regardless. on a different note, BP is a huge supplier of Natural Gas. So are we going to boycott Entergy and not pay our electric bills.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4064 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:22 pm to
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so most of the owners will change over to shell or exxon. not a big deal for the business owner b/c they are in business to make profit. BP will still sale their crude to these stations regardless.
If a station changes brand, BP may or may not supply the product. Shell or Exxon may supply their own and BP would have other outlets for bulk product. A consumer cannot figure this out, so it's irrelevant. The only impact a consumer can have is to deny the service station profit to a BP branded station.

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on a different note, BP is a huge supplier of Natural Gas. So are we going to boycott Entergy and not pay our electric bills.
As I said a boycott can only have a limited effect, but if it only makes someone feel better, that is sufficient justification.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
59562 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 6:16 pm to
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If a station changes brand, BP may or may not supply the product. Shell or Exxon may supply their own and BP would have other outlets for bulk product. A consumer cannot figure this out, so it's irrelevant. The only impact a consumer can have is to deny the service station profit to a BP branded station.


In the US, they can only make X number gals. of mogas. Thats it, we haven't built a new refinery in over 30 years. Only thing in the past 30 years is Crude Creep (Increase of rates). All refiners will stay at the same rates and still make the same number of gallons. A boycott only hurts the middle man. Workers and station private owners. In some ways, a boycott helps BP, FYI.....
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43903 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 6:19 pm to
Dad brings sense to the oil board
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