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Posted on 7/23/10 at 1:12 pm to King
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With the dispersants, the oil is mostly underwater
So the dispersant is changing the density of oil?
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As it stands right now, the only real impact I am worried about down the road is how the oil will affect the oysters. They aren't like most other seafood in how they breed, etc
Long term, I agree with this. I think erosion due to marsh loss is also a concern. However, the people still claiming this is worse than Katrina all need to take a soldering iron to their reporductive organs.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 7:05 pm to Tiger JJ
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In what form is this disaster eventually going to manifest itself?
The real disaster is the economic effects. Only time will tell how much environmental damage has been done, and just because tons of the stuff isn't washing up on shores, it is still out there somewhere. However, the economic effects are obvious.
No drilling, no fishing, reduced tourism. The media is partly to blame about the latter, but people don't want to get in the water with tarballs and unknown effects. I mean, how long will these tarballs keep washing up? A litter of balls every couple of months for the next 6 months? year? years? As long as it is happening, people are going to continue going elsewhere, imo. Also, a legislative over reaction could cause drilling companies to look for a new host countries.
Posted on 7/24/10 at 1:11 pm to Archie Bengal Bunker
I know a great many people are hurting because of this mess, but I am hearing alot of stories of many people making some serious $$$ too.
I know an old guy that has a 2 bedroom camp in the Lafite area that he just uses sometimes on the weekends. Homeboy is getting $4000 per month to let two supervisor type people live there right now. They are hardly ever there and do not cook in the place, so it isn't like his place is being damaged.
I know the marinas that have rooms, etc and every place like that are making big money. Some of those fishermen are making much more money that they were before the accident. Someone I know is getting $750 a day for the use of his 30 foot boat.
I know a guy who was unemployed that went to work overseeing some of these clean up crews or something like that and he is making what amounts to $100K a year if you count his per diem, etc.
This is mostly happening in La.
Now the moritorium is the real arse kicker. That is what is going to kill us.
I know an old guy that has a 2 bedroom camp in the Lafite area that he just uses sometimes on the weekends. Homeboy is getting $4000 per month to let two supervisor type people live there right now. They are hardly ever there and do not cook in the place, so it isn't like his place is being damaged.
I know the marinas that have rooms, etc and every place like that are making big money. Some of those fishermen are making much more money that they were before the accident. Someone I know is getting $750 a day for the use of his 30 foot boat.
I know a guy who was unemployed that went to work overseeing some of these clean up crews or something like that and he is making what amounts to $100K a year if you count his per diem, etc.
This is mostly happening in La.
Now the moritorium is the real arse kicker. That is what is going to kill us.
Posted on 7/24/10 at 3:02 pm to notiger1997
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Now the moritorium is the real arse kicker. That is what is going to kill us.
Yep. Majority of the Gulf Coast tourism dollars lost is largely due to hype by the media.
Loss of commercial fishing income is largely due to over reaction by gov't closing areas to fishing that didn't need to be closed. Feds opened up the first offshore area a couple of days ago. The area they opened hadn't seen oil in 30 days!!!! That is 29 days to late.
Fishing guides lost money because of media hype and to many unneeded closures.
Marinas lost money becauxe of needless closures.
People in the oil exploration not only lost money they have lost there way of life due to needless moretorium.
All of that dwarfs the amount of damage that should have been done by only closing areas and stuff that needed to be closed.
Bottom line is the gov't took a screwup by BP and literally made it 40X worse than it had to be.
Posted on 7/24/10 at 4:06 pm to omegaman66
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Bottom line is the gov't took a screwup by BP and literally made it 40X worse than it had to be.
The media really did fck things up good for the tourism on the gulf coast. The oil situation was not bad and all in Alabama and next to nothing in Florida, but those asswhipes ran the same over dramatic stories over and over and killed the summer for the beaches.
Posted on 7/24/10 at 9:43 pm to Tiger JJ
oil is a naturally occuring substance
Posted on 7/25/10 at 1:39 pm to StrangeBrew
Great point on the media notiger. I wish there was a way that coastal tourist cities like Venice and GS/OB could sue media outlets for their over the top hyping of the disaster. GS/OB had oil wash ashore but there were FAR more days that the beach and water was fine than spoiled. There was an article on al.com Friday saying MANY family owned restaurants and rental companies are done for good if they don`t get funds from BP by mid AUGUST. it`s almost as if the POTUS and the media is deliberately punishing LA, MS, and AL. The moratoreum, fishing closures, dispersant usage basically let,s BP off the hook
Posted on 7/25/10 at 2:35 pm to Govt Tide
I am going home for the first time since the spill happened next week. Someone give me the low down, if I burrow my feet in the sand will I get oil all over them? And does it stink like oil if you are sitting on the beach? Is the entire landscape ruined by shite tons of barges and workers? I am just trying to ready myself for what to expect when I get out of my car on Friday....I live on OB close to the state park if that helps. TIA
Posted on 7/25/10 at 3:26 pm to jennBN
From what I am hearing the beaches are like you left them.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 7:06 pm to Tiger JJ
Some beaches have been hit hard. However, for the most part, the impact FROM OIL has been negligible. The impact from media hysteria has been devastating.
This post was edited on 7/25/10 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:27 pm to udtiger
ud nailed it. I live in Mobile and have taken about a half dozen weekend day trips to GS/OB since the spill started and only once have I seen any oil at all in the water. Only once did I see small puddles of oil at the tideline on the beach. All other times the beach and water looked no different than usual. I`ve also not yet noticed a strong smell of oil. Like the oil itself it`s been way overblown The media has essentially destroyed the area`s summer tourist season.
Posted on 7/25/10 at 10:35 pm to Govt Tide
Went with the wife's family to Ft. Walton the week before the 4th for the annual trip. No waits for tables anywhere in Destin (literally called Louisiana Lagniappe on the way into Destin and was told our table of 4 could be seated immediately). Spoke to the hostess who said that the condos on the Emerald Coast were at 55% the week of the 4th (which was/is their biggest weekend).
The only thing that kept us off the beach was rain. Water was crystal clear and, unlike last year, no shitty beaches or smell (and sight) of dead fish...
BY THE WAY...WHERE ARE ALL THE frickING FISH KILLS?
Anyway, it is a g*ddamned shame what has been done to that area. Truest example of how slanted media coverage can influence behavior.
The only thing that kept us off the beach was rain. Water was crystal clear and, unlike last year, no shitty beaches or smell (and sight) of dead fish...
BY THE WAY...WHERE ARE ALL THE frickING FISH KILLS?
Anyway, it is a g*ddamned shame what has been done to that area. Truest example of how slanted media coverage can influence behavior.
Posted on 7/26/10 at 3:57 am to udtiger
LSU scientist have repeatedly said that the fish are fine. Apparently they do not try to commit suicide when oil is around like was previously thought.
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