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re: BP is burning sea turtles

Posted on 6/20/10 at 1:37 am to
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 1:37 am to
damn bastards
Posted by OTIS2
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Member since Jul 2008
51541 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:16 am to
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Welcome to America, land of the bought and paid for government. Our politicians are a bunch of chicken shite corporate arse kissing whores that are available to the highest bidder.

Pretty damn true.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:00 am to
During the Exxon Valdez spill it cost 90k per animal rescued and cleaned that survived. It's extremely painful for the animals to be cleaned and something like 90% of animals cleaned survived for any amount of time. Many animals activist would think its better to put them down and use the money elsewhere for environmental use.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34166 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:09 am to
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something like 90% of animals cleaned survived for any amount of time. Many animals activist would think its better to put them down and use the money elsewhere for environmental use.


LSU vet school and various other groups who have been taking care of oiled wildlife, and who have yet to be paid a dime from BP, said a low percentage actually survive

However, BPs antics of getting dead oiled wildlife bagging it and tossing in trash piles to keep the numbers down is irresponsible.
Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2565 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 11:21 am to
Am I a bad person if I laughed out loud at the thread title when I first saw it?


That is fricked up, though.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm actually kinda shocked by the lack of involvement by the traditional Enviro-warrior powers. Where's the PETA and Greenpeace brigade hiding out? They've been AWFULLY quiet through this whole mess... I would think they'd have a whole calendar's worth of photographs by now...


for the reactionaries, its more important and powerful to see Republican governors complaining.

Posted by lsutiger_08
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
6683 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 3:55 pm to
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However, BPs antics of getting dead oiled wildlife bagging it and tossing in trash piles to keep the numbers down is irresponsible.



What exactly would you have them do? Bag them and lay them out on the shore so you can know exactly how many have died?

It's just a damn turtle, and, if it's dead or dying, I'd rather them dispose of it.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12892 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 4:59 pm to
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It's just a damn turtle


Not if it's protected it's not.
It is important to get numbers of protected species being impacted.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 6:45 pm to
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it was probably people like that fricking idiot that appologized to BP the other day that was on the approval committee.


Don't forget that BP bought Obama as well. They made huge contributions to his campaign fund.

I also blame this government not only for their failure to adequately regulate the rig, but more for their dismal attempt to keep the oil off our shores.
Posted by LSUGradATL
Warsawa/ATL
Member since Jul 2007
10497 posts
Posted on 6/20/10 at 7:09 pm to
I sent the link to PETAs website contact. Lets see if they respond.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5750 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 4:59 am to
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What exactly would you have them do? Bag them and lay them out on the shore so you can know exactly how many have died?

Actually yes, that is a good idea. If they are rare, you can actually cut the eggs out of the dead mother and the young can survive. We have done this with several fresh water species that are endangered. Admittedly, most were with recent roadkills, but DOR (dead on road) and DIW (dead in water) are the same as far as the eggs go. Yeah, pretty gruesome operation though ( ).
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30189 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 5:18 am to
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During the Exxon Valdez spill it cost 90k per animal rescued


That cost/animal goes down with each rescue.


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It's extremely painful for the animals to be cleaned


I'd imagine a turtle would be much easier (and likely less painful) to clean than a bird or a jellyfish.


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Many animals activist would think its better to put them down and use the money elsewhere for environmental use.



Unless the animals being rescued are facing TOTAL habitat loss and a fast-track to extinction.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28031 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 5:33 am to
I'm sorry but the money should be used for more effective things like schools in Africa or Orleans Parish.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30189 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 5:49 am to
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I'm sorry but the money should be used for more effective things like schools in Africa or Orleans Parish.


Because saving the world's 6th largest source of income just isn't very important. (Yes - the Gulf of Mexico)

Because you can get shrimp in places besides Louisiana.

Because if we want to see a sea turtle we can go to the zoo.


Because what's a couple of extinct species in the grand scheme of things...


It's called the food chain. Look it up.




FWIW - Orleans Parish still has well over $700+ MILLION in unspent federal Katrina relief money not earmarked for anything in particular.

Imagine how many schools you could build in Africa with that kinda money.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172464 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:14 am to
Poor Turtles... I bet they would have never thought they would die by fire.
Posted by Wildcat
Kentucky
Member since Sep 2007
5771 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:23 am to
That pisses me off too.

Everything seems to be expendable...

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34166 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:37 am to
HAIL BP
Posted by Geaux2Hell
BR
Member since Sep 2006
4791 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 7:06 pm to
lets see how long this takes to get out to a TV station
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28031 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 9:44 pm to
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Because saving the world's 6th largest source of income just isn't very important


I'm sorry but what does this have to do with cleaning sea turtles?

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Because you can get shrimp in places besides Louisiana.


BP is not cleaning shrimp

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Because if we want to see a sea turtle we can go to the zoo.


Use the money to repopulate the gulf if every sea turtles dies. I'm sure it would be more cost effective.

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Because what's a couple of extinct species in the grand scheme of things...


What species is being cleaned that is going to go extinct? Stop being sensational and use alittle common sense
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34166 posts
Posted on 6/21/10 at 10:11 pm to
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lets see how long this takes to get out to a TV station


BP would be toast if 1/2 the stuff made the news. I've been down there a lot and talked to many regarding the cleanup and how things are operating and the very shady practices BP is running.
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