re: Your thoughts on the LSU Greek System

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Honestly, pledge ship should just be done away with and it would solve a lot of problems.

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Uh... a fraternity without pledges isn't a fraternity. Some of the craziest shite I saw at UT was 1) during pledging 2) living in the fraternity house after initiation.

Pledging sucks but there's some fun shite that goes on. And for all the stuff that sucks, you put up with it because you know everyone who's ever been initiated has done it as well. It's a rite of passage.

Women wouldn't understand because sorority pledges have a very different experience.

False

And no

Pledge ship or pledging is gonna change.

I know some schools are very very involved with all pledging processes. B/c hazing has gotten so bad.

We got kicked off campus for hazing. We did go underground for a while as nationals tried to rebuild the chapter with new guys. That was over 20 years ago and to this day I think it was a horrible decision. Nationals should of just shite canned the whole chapter for a few years, then started from scratch but our alumni nixed that. So there was a lot of bad blood and tension between both groups which only made matters worse. It took time to heal wounds and some guys were actually able to go back and get their membership again.

The one thing I will say about the guys that were kicked out is that everyone stayed close, even to this day. We didn't need to pay a rental fee to keep our friendship.

No
No, sororities are very philanthropic
Yes, college kids will find a way but I'm sure LSU would love to avoid the liability if they would just take it all off campus, eliminate houses

Ill just copy my post from the other thread. I agree it sucks and was actually very fun and i made some great friends. But its just not controlled enough in today's environment for a school sanctioned event. Some people take it / themselves too seriously and think they have so much power and the pledges don't know when its crossing the line or how to get out of that situation.

For me i went through well after it was really bad - running errands, helping out the house staff, cleaning peoples apartments, study hall, some weird mental shite like being locked in a dark room with everyone and a weird song on repeat, the scavenger hunts, have nasty stuff thrown at you, eating some horrible bullshite (not literal shite), passing a bottle down the line (not a big deal between 30+ people), exercise / bow and toes, a couple knees or kicks and a few nights where you had to get kneed int he leg a bunch or whatever as a group on the big nights.

That said, there are alway some people that take themselves / greek life/ the fraternity way too seriously and take it too far. Obviously its like any group of people where you like some, are friendly with some and simply don't like others.

I hated some of the people that took it too seriously and were a-holes. I've never understood the joy of kicking a defenseless person or some of the other bull shite people do - especially when its at a personal house with just a few people. A very very small level of that at the beginning lets them be scared and all but it really isn't necessary.

I had to kick out some people from my personal house a couple times when my roommate and some other of our "friends" brought pledges home late at night. i didn't like it at first and then they started taking it too far and i told them to go get in my bedroom and got rid of the extra people.

Point being that even in a fairly chill system / group you can't control everyone and the whole pledge system is just not controlled enough to continue IMO.


LOL also I just realized you thought I was a woman - not quite.

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No
Probably

1. Did not participate

2. Fraternities may be but not sororities. Sororities seem to care about legacy and leadership. Fraternities seem to only care about partying and the four or five years they are there.

3. Clandestine and unregulated organizations are already there in some form. So, no different than now. I think the University will be safer because these are not directly tied to them.

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There is too much money coming in from Greek alums

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Is that honestly true, though? Non TAF giving to LSU is in the toilet generally and the Greeks get dicked with a lot (unlike the Greeks at Alabama, for instance) for a group with supposed juice so does anybody have some honest to goodness numbers on that?

But to answer the OP, the Greek system will remain intact, just under ever more restrictive rules. But that applies to everybody else on campus, too.