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re: Your life is important, everyone.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:51 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:51 am to OMLandshark
Maybe in his mind he was so depressed he was thinking his family would have a better Christmas if he were gone. These are people who think the world and their loved ones are better off without them. They aren't thinking rationally. They don't sort things out like "normal" people.
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 2:05 am to lsuwontonwrap
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but depression can be a funky thing
It seems to me that the 'selfish' accusation would only feed feelings of guilt,
and that would be counterproductive in dealing with a severely depressed person.
So, I don't see that as helpful.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:05 am to dukke v
quote:You have no idea how lucky some of you are to be able to say this.
I will just never get it
I have had clinical depression for 5 years. It hasn't been 5 years of straight agony, I have my good days, but even my good days contain not even 10% of the amount of joy and well being I used to experience on a daily basis.
On thd outside, my life is great. I have nothing to complain about. But it's like there is a hole in my brain where all of my happiness used to be.
I have tried medicine after medicine and nothing works. I have been hospitalized for attempting suicide.
Now I have 2 children myself, and, while I would never leave them behind, I wouldnt be lying if i said I cant wait to die, and I wish my life would just fast forward.
I wish my brain could just feel like a normal persons
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 3:06 am
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:12 am to Peepdip
Peep, while I completely understand that i wont change how you do or don't feel happiness, I am sure that you being alive has given those 2 kids happiness.
As I said for Bush, I am glad that you are alive. You are important in people's lives.
As I said for Bush, I am glad that you are alive. You are important in people's lives.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:13 am to DByrd2
Good post, and timely at the holidays.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:12 am to Bushmaster
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how does a person check out after seeing their kids lose their mom?
That struggle is unfathomable and one I pray I never understand
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:27 am to Rouge
Well what he did was selfish.
Hopefully he at least put someone he trusts in his will to take care of his children.
Look if this was a 90 year old man who lost his wife of sixty plus years; I could understand better but young children it's messed up
Hopefully he at least put someone he trusts in his will to take care of his children.
Look if this was a 90 year old man who lost his wife of sixty plus years; I could understand better but young children it's messed up
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:36 am to Bushmaster
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Not trying to be a dick but how selfish does a person have to be to check out after seeing their kids lose their mom?
Selfishness has nothing to do with it. In my limited experiences, there seems to be despair then overwhelming fear that forces a choice.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:50 am to DByrd2
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He had lost his wife in a car accident they were in, and struggled with survivors guilt for the last two years since the accident. He committed suicide today, leaving behind his two young children.
Sorry for your loss. However...
Wow, this dude had some mental problems. I hope family and friends attempted send him to counceling .
Posted on 12/14/16 at 7:54 am to DByrd2
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but he didn't want his problems to weigh on the lives of others.
"His problems?!"
Well now he just created a whole new shitload of problems for his family to take care of and oh by the way, never get over. So, while it is sad for his family, but like three others have said already, that was selfish. A fricking family to take care of, two little kids depended on him, right? And he does that shite? There's no other way to put him killing himself, only selfish.
I get it, the guy was depressed, he could've gone to therapy, church, whatever he liked to do to clear his head. But instead, he just gave up and left the shattered pieces for his family to deal with and his kids to bear for a lifetime. Nobody sees how that is a little selfish?
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 8:04 am
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:02 am to DByrd2
Horrible, I'm sorry about your friend. His pain must have been immense. However, I must say, that it was cowardly to take his life at the expense of his children. They will now suffer exponentially more than he was experiencing in a myriad of ways.
Prayers for all involved.
Prayers for all involved.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:02 am to Rouge
quote:Yeah yeah. Look, I've done a lot of shite I'm not proud of. But don't expect me to feel sorry for or try to understand a guy who condemned his children to a life as orphans and emotional despair. They'll go through most of their life wondering why they weren't a good enough reason for their father to stick around even though he was hurting. They're emotionally fricked because of him.
glass houses
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:37 am to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:Your biggest mistake is assuming you wouldnt do the same thing if you were in his mind. Would you call a schizophenic selfish for irrational behavior?
Tigerfaninsouthland
I gurantee you the person who killed himself was a great person who happened to be in a state of pshychosis.
Does the value and meaning of the word pshychosis clear things up for you at all?
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:52 am to boosiebadazz
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boosiebadazz
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Stud athlete and former LSU baseball player
I played highschool baseball with his older brother Nick. Phone started blowing up about 10am. Terrible situation. I did like you and left work for about an hour just to cry and clear my head.
His family is a great family and he always had a smile that could light up a room. He had been battling depression for 2-3 years.
I know Nick pretty well and this is going to devastate him.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:53 am to ThatsAFactJack
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ThatsAFactJack
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:56 am to Rouge
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Rouge
Rouge send me an email if you have my email address. I can give you more information.
If you don't have my email send me an email to the address below. Its my "spam" account.
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:01 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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They'll go through most of their life wondering why they weren't a good enough reason for their father to stick around even though he was hurting. They're emotionally fricked because of him.
What a horrible story, but this is true. Those poor kids. Man, these stories are bad as stand alones, but you add the holidays and what's supposed to be a happy exciting time for kids, filled with wonder and excitement, is now filled with anxiety, grief, anger, etc. And it will always be like that now for them. Man, this story hurts to read.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 9:12 am
Posted on 12/14/16 at 9:06 am to Bushmaster
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Not trying to be a dick but how selfish does a person have to be to check out after seeing their kids lose their mom?
Not saying what the guy did was right, but depression is a bad mfer. I've been there. All rational thinking is gone and you are not yourself. In their thinking, it is the least selfish thing they can do because they feel they are nothing but a burden to everyone in their lives.
As I said, it's not right, but they don't see things clearly.
Sorry for your loss OP. Prayers.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 3:26 pm to OneEyedWillie
Yeah, I expected the Neanderthal "selfish/coward" responses. Someone said earlier in the thread "the sane mind cannot fathom the mind of the insane".
Regardless of the critical statements of what he did, it doesn't change two things:
1. He was a great guy and truly loved his children despite the issues he was facing.
2. What he did.
You don't have to preach to me about these things. I don't know what it does for you folks to say things like that, knowing full-well that they won't change anything.
Back to the point of this thread, people who are having suicidal thoughts or tendencies need this information to be available.
No more high-horse judgement. Just save these numbers somehow and give them to people that need help if you find yourself around someone that could use it.
Regardless of the critical statements of what he did, it doesn't change two things:
1. He was a great guy and truly loved his children despite the issues he was facing.
2. What he did.
You don't have to preach to me about these things. I don't know what it does for you folks to say things like that, knowing full-well that they won't change anything.
Back to the point of this thread, people who are having suicidal thoughts or tendencies need this information to be available.
No more high-horse judgement. Just save these numbers somehow and give them to people that need help if you find yourself around someone that could use it.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 4:29 pm to Bushmaster
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Not trying to be a dick but how selfish does a person have to be to check out after seeing their kids lose their mom?
I lost my father to suicide around Christmas time when I was 13, almost 14. I had to find him, and it has stuck with me since. I saw him transform into a different person over the span of a year, and he felt like no one loved him. It was terrifying to see his anger and depression show. People that commit suicide do it because they feel like its the only way out. They aren't in a rational mindset.
Sorry to you OP. Be there for his family as much as you can. It's a terrible situation.
This post was edited on 12/14/16 at 4:38 pm
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