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re: You Moon landing deniers are all complete idiots...

Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:12 am to
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:12 am to
Since you can't comprehend basic concepts in writing let me play show and tell it the simplest way possible:

This is a Saturn V rocket. See that tiny piece at the top, the Command module?,to avoid the massive fuel requirements to bring it back intact ( let alone how to land it intact), it was designed to only come back in smaller and smaller expendable stages along the way, thus so greatly lightening the fuel requirements to totally avoid the refueling problem.





Musk is bringing This whole massive thing back to earth intact -retard..





This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:17 am to
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How massively heavy was it man?

Really really really really really heavy? must have been sooooo heavy, dooooooood!


Must have been, what do you mean MUST have been, I was clearly referring to Starship being massively heavy, not Saturn V, as it was designed to become lighter and lighter during its trip to the Moon and Back.

Stop embarrassing yourself..
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 1:22 am
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:17 am to
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How massively heavy was it man?
3100 tons to starship's 5000 tons

I guess the added weight at liftoff and escape plus low g landing plus low g liftoff plus return plus landing on earth needs that much more. The initial liftoff and escape would account for a significant increase but 20 refuelings does seem excessive, but I'm no rocket scientist
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:17 am to
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It's largely kids who weren't alive when the US made it's moon landings
Not trying to make you feel old but some of those 'kids' are pushing 60 now.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:24 am to
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And I'm still fascinated that we need 20 times the energy today to make it to the moon
Let me tell you what Starship is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some frickin' muscle.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:29 am to
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Cameras and moon buggies with 1960s battery tech that could drive for miles on the lunar surface at -200 degrees. I need those batteries in my 4Runner. It can't handle a couple 15 degrees days
They used silver-zinc batteries, not car batteries. High energy density, one-time-use, heavily insulated, and thermally managed for a mission that lasted days.

Your 4Runner uses lead-acid, sits cold-soaked overnight, and has constant parasitic draw. Both batteries, but completely different tech.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:41 am to
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Oh and 75 bytes of ram to write the code to blast off, separate modules, fly directly to moon, separate again, land on the moon, take off from the moon, reconnect to orbiter, fly a straight line back to Earth and land in the ocean.

That's hella efficient code.
Not 75 bytes. About 2 KB RAM, 36 KB ROM, and nonstop ground support. Simple hardware, narrow tasks, no graphics, no OS, no multitasking. Purpose-built computers doing a narrowly defined job with minimal memory isn't magic.
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:42 am to
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And I'm still fascinated that we need 20 times the energy today to make it to the moon then we did SIXTY years ago.

Well you are wrong.
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Yes, NASA officials have indicated that a Starship Human Landing System (HLS) mission to the Moon for Artemis could require around 20 total Starship launches, with many being tanker flights to build up fuel in orbit for the lander, though SpaceX aims for fewer by optimizing fuel transfer and ship design, with estimates ranging from 8-12 tanker flights to potentially 20

20 more LAUNCHES to bring enough fuel to refill the moon Starship. It's not like they are needing 20 full Starships to get there.

Musk is looking to haul 150,000 tonnes to the moon. Apollo could handle 100,000 lbs.

Starship itself will land on, and take back off from, the moon...how much more fuel does it use than the tiny lander Apollo used?

This is really not that complicated.
Posted by beaux duke
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 1:58 am to
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Let me tell you what Starship is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some frickin' muscle.

Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:01 am to
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I'm not saying it didn't happen, but.... You are telling me that in 1969 we went to the moon and have never once gone back??? Why not???

Unaware we went back multiple times. Finds it deeply troubling.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 4:41 am to
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You are telling me that in 1969 we went to the moon and have never once gone back??? Why not???


After the Apollo 11 landing in July 1969, we landed again on the Moon in the following months and years:

Apollo 12 - November 1969
Apollo 14 - February 1971
Apollo 15 - July 1971
Apollo 16 - April 1972
Apollo 17 - December 1972

Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:55 am to
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Unaware we went back multiple times. Finds it deeply troubling.
The boundless ignorance of these clueless deniers is hilarious. Know NOTHING of what they are talking about, but will insist it didn't happen!
Posted by wallowinit
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:58 am to
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Apollo could handle 100,000 lbs.

Found the idiot
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 6:59 am to
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The leadership of the Soviet Union was looking for a way out of the space race. It was bankrupting their nation. That’s why they didn’t call the US bluff with the fake landing.


The Soviets spent Billions of Rubles per year through the 1970s & 1980s on their space program.

Way to “get out” of the space race.

PS: You are a moran.
Posted by novabill
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:10 am to
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you cannot make a single logical argument why we would lie about that


Horrible logic.
It must be true because they would not lie about it?
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:17 am to
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Horrible logic.
It must be true because they would not lie about it?

Make YOUR argument then numbnutts.

Why would we lie and risk being exposed by the Commies? All at the height of the propaganda driven Space race and the Cold War?

Why has no one involved in the greatest lie in the history of mankind not confessed, even on their death bed? From the thousands that had to know, from the President down to the maid that wiped the shite stains out of the toilets on the "Fake" Moon landing sets.

This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 7:19 am
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