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re: You have to be 21 to buy tobacco in California now

Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:31 pm to
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That is because it is so taboo for kids. If we taught responsible drinking in the home we would have less bingeing in college aged adults.
Yep. Look at Europe. The drinking age is 18 and drinking as a younger teenager is not taboo at all. Kids learn to drink and handle alcohol while still living with their parents and under control. For some reason, dumbass Americans think it is a good idea to not let gets drink at all or learn about it until they are on their own completely. The logic is beyond retarded.


Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25239 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:41 pm to
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I'm a smoker and I completely agree with the new rule


As a smoker, I'd buy an 18 year old some beer or weed, but not cigarettes.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10204 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:46 pm to
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Not only do we trust 18 year olds to go to war at 18, but they can also vote . They can be trusted with stuff as important as that but can't be trusted to decide on smoking or drinking beer


No, actually, 18 year olds have proven they CAN'T be trusted when it comes to beer/alcohol. I could give two shits about smoking but 18-23 year olds make up a small portion of the driving population but a massive percentage of alcohol-related fatalities on the highways. Teenagers are statistically proven to act more stupid behind the wheel, make dumber decisions and create more accidents- under the influence or not. I don't think there's any reasonable argument that society would be better by lowering the drinking age in the US.

As far as voting, 18 year olds shouldn't be allowed to do that either. As far as going to war, I tell you what- if you're 18-20 and in the military, serving (or have served) in a war zone, drink up. You earned it. But everyone else can shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 5/5/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:48 pm to
Why do you hate freedom?
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10204 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:49 pm to
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Why do you hate freedom?


Why do hate common sense? I know. Let's let 12 year olds drink too. MOAR FREEDOM FOR EVERYONES.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40148 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:53 pm to
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know. Let's let 12 year olds drink too.

Quite a leap you've made there.

All I'm asking for is consistency. If someone by reaching age 18 is deemed legally sound and capable of making reasoned decisions about their life and their health, can enter into any contract, purchase a car or house, get married, start and run a business, (I could go on), I think it's utterly absurd that that person can be denied the right to buy or have a sip of alcohol or deemed legally incapable of making that decision for themselves.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10204 posts
Posted on 5/5/16 at 1:59 pm to
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All I'm asking for is consistency.


Sorry, but a switch doesn't magically flip and you go from being a child to becoming a capable adult. 18-20 year olds have shown they abuse alcohol at a much, much higher rate than older people. As a result, the public is endangered at much higher rate. An 18 year old smoking a cigarette behind the wheel probably isn't going to kill me, so that's why the smoking age of consent is lower.

There is no consistency but if we are to get a standardized age for smoking/drinking/gambling, etc, it should be higher, not lower.
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