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re: You get arrested if disrupt a Law Enforcement Operation

Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:15 am to
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1884 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:15 am to
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The board switching to wanting a police state and abolishing the 2nd amendment has been wild. What a lib place now.


Thinking people shouldn’t interfere with a law enforcement operation in process is not the same thing as wanting a police state.

Thinking someone should have better since than to have a weapon on them while interfering with a law enforcement operation is not the same thing as wanting 2A abolished.

But you know this and are just being contrarian.
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
1990 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:16 am to
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Where does the 2nd Amendment grant the right to anyone to block law enforcement personnel from doing their lawfully authorized and mandated duty?
Where is anyone granted the right to put hands on a law enforcement officer?
Where do people derive a right to block roadways?


please show me where that man who got killed was doing a single one of these things
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1884 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:29 am to
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Were any of the 10 agents beating the guy at risk?


From the perspective of one of the agents maybe so. If you were one of the agents and you hear that subject had a gun and then didn’t see that another agent had already removed the gun, but did see the suspect reaching behind his back for something, then yes maybe he thought his life was at risk.
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
1990 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:40 am to
thats giving a whole lot of credit. Sounds like these guys are under trained and unprepared for whatever the frick it is they are trying to accomplish. Unless the is what they are trying to accomplish. Which seems more likely now that I think of it.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1884 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:48 am to
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thats giving a whole lot of credit. Sounds like these guys are under trained and unprepared


No that is what the video evidence supports. And how does that equate to being untrained.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32869 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:49 am to
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No that is what the video evidence supports. And how does that equate to being untrained.

“If you hear a gunshot, take your best guess at where it came from and shoot the closest person not wearing a uniform.”

You’re right, that’s probably in the manual somewhere.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6793 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:17 am to
Every concealed carry class I’ve attended made MULTIPLE points to specify that you are to AVOID confrontation. That is the polar opposite of what this guy did.

And it’s super obvious what you clowns saying “Hur dur MAGA hates the 2A now” are doing. You don’t give a flying frick about the 2A.

This situation and the Ashli Babbitt situation were both incredibly unfortunate. I wish neither had happened.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53403 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:27 am to
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The suspect reached for his pistol when the shot when off,


You can clearly see both his hands cradling his beaten head that took 5-7 pistol whips when the shots are fired.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53403 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:29 am to
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Every concealed carry class I’ve attended made MULTIPLE points to specify that you are to AVOID confrontation. That is the polar opposite of what this guy did.


I didn’t realize the threshold of confrontation was now turning my back to law enforcement, walking away, and helping an undetained civilian, all across the street from investigation.

Exactly how fragile are the egos of these roid ragers?


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And it’s super obvious what you clowns saying “Hur dur MAGA hates the 2A now” are doing. You don’t give a flying frick about the 2A.


Nah. I’m not saying that. You see, that would require you to even have the intellectual honesty to realize this was over the line. There are no principles at play here. You are just getting a hard on over seeing libs die.


Case in point, your confrontation line.

He wasn’t yelling. He wasn’t aggressively moving towards an officer. And not a single camera angle shows that. You really didn’t see evidence of resisting while on the ground (though I admit it’s possible, hard to see through the eight officers needed to beat a guy helping someone).

So what, did you say the quiet part out loud and refer to existing as confrontation?




(And don’t even try to use the fact the woman was pepper sprayed as meaning anything. They weren’t in the process of detaining her and no one arrested her despite being fully incapacitated. If it WAS their intention to eventually do it but she got away because literally everyone wanted to join in the scrum pile, then that’s another layer of incompetence.)
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 6:41 am
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27043 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:36 am to
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but did see the suspect reaching behind his back for something, then yes maybe he thought his life was at risk.

You can see the officer pull his weapon from his holster and aim at suspect while he is still cradled.

He does arch back AFTER he is shot and i did see a very selectively edited video trying to make it look like he arched back (after being shot) and then was shot. They edited it to remove the first shots and added slow mo to make the sound hard to follow
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 6:43 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5367 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:41 am to
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You don’t think it’s a problem that there’s a protected class of armed people who usually don’t even have college degrees that we’re told to blindly obey and trust

Name just one society that did not have a means to enforce laws. Then tell me what happens when there is no means to enforce the laws.
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who usually don’t even have college degrees

This is drivel that had no need in the point you were attempting to make.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5367 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:54 am to
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thats giving a whole lot of credit. Sounds like these guys are under trained and unprepared for whatever the frick it is they are trying to accomplish

I would say they are. ICE and BP are not trained in riot control tactics. That falls under city and state LEOs. The city is now weeks into this and local and state governments still refuse to do their jobs. In fact it looks much worse than that. It looks like entities at the highest levels of state government actually have been working, since the beginning to undermine ICE and BP. Tactics being used in MSP, by the protest organizers can only be countered by those train in counter terrorism/insurgency. ICE and BP as well as local LEOs are not trained for that. Only select military units are.

But ICE and BP are trying to deport illegal immigrants, who have criminal charges. They are getting no support since MSP is a sanctuary city.
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 Unless the is what they are trying to accomplish. Which seems more likely now that I think of it.

Yes, the whole idea was to do this. That is why it is happening only in one city, while operations are going on all across tUSA.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7553 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:54 am to
At this point, I see there are 46 idiots, most likely Democrats, who downvoted this post. This is the world we now live in...where folks think they can dictate the laws they want to follow, simply based on emotion.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1466 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 6:58 am to
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Do you know who serves in our military? Damn, you’re stupid.


Not all our military is under educated. Have you ever heard of officers? A whole group of decision makers with college degrees. Man, you sure are posting a lot of dumb stuff in this thread.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53403 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:01 am to


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please show me where that man who got killed was doing a single one of these things


He was even voluntarily backpedaling when the ICE agent first approached him.

“Oh no, this isn’t about boundaries anymore, if I had to come over here I’m GOING to shove you and everyone around you”
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5367 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:06 am to
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Not all our military is under educated. Have you ever heard of officers? A whole group of decision makers with college degrees. Man, you sure are posting a lot of dumb stuff in this thread

Yet the same cannot be said for LEO organizations?
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
3812 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:10 am to
I saw Waltz encouraged more violence from his voters. Can't wait to see what happens next.

I'm one of those people against using the NG, but I am all for removing violent criminals/illegals.

Watching political leaders from encourage their voters to physically attack ICE, after voting for over a decade to fund it, has me asking what their motivations are.

You know Waltz has to be laughing his arse off knowing he has his voters literally dying for his cause while this distracts from the fraud he and his fellow pols are committing. Oh, and you can also thank republicans in congress for helping cover it up as well. You know they are getting some kick backs too.
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
591 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:10 am to
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while interfering with a law enforcement operation


Even if that law “enforcement operation” seemed to be walking across the street to assault a women ?

The state is not infallible, it can make mistakes. We all don’t blindly follow those in power.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1466 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:13 am to
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Yet the same cannot be said for LEO organizations?


I don’t think they’re organized the same way. Hard to find stats on the military overall for education. As far as enlisted, 7-10 percent have a 4 yr degree while officers have masters or advanced degrees around 40 percent of the time.

It’s estimated that around 30 percent of police hold a 4 yr degree.

Both police and enlisted report about half 40-50 percent having some college or an AA.

So, maybe as a whole police are better educated than the enlisted population, but severely under educated when compared to officers.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14565 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:14 am to
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The board switching to wanting a police state and abolishing the 2nd amendment has been wild. What a lib place now.


Neither the 1st or 2nd Amendments condone stupidity.
You can't scream in a theater because they play an ad that you don't like and no one in their right might is concealed carry in a police station or in the riots that have been associated with ICE enforcement in Minnesota.
Translation: both rights require responsible citizens using common sense.
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