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re: You be the judge: Kickboxing champ/MMA fighter knocks out man at bar: claims self defense
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:12 pm to Klark Kent
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:12 pm to Klark Kent
quote:It's happening, isn't?
frick. i’ve now agreed with shel and spleen within a 24 hour period.
The end of the world!
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
There was definitely a move made towards the big guy. I don't think it was an attempt to throw a punch but more of a "what?" move.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:13 pm to diat150
quote:
Perhaps you need glasses
Nope.
quote:
I just passed an eye exam.
I'd get a second opinion if I were you.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:13 pm to TDTOM
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There was definitely a move made towards the big guy. I don't think it was an attempt to throw a punch but more of a "what?" move.
Agreed.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:14 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Drunk obnoxious guy was just doing a stupid bowing up "what are you gonna do" thing.
Then we disagree as to what drunk guy was doing. Dropping his shoulders like that is what it would look like if he was about to throw a punch. That’s why people do it, to make the other person flinch. Of course, if they didn’t actually intend to throw the punch, then the person that flinches looks scared and aggressor thinks he wins the encounter by forcing the other to back down. However, that involves the risk that the other person will treat the fake punch as a real one and react. Drunk guy cant defend himself by saying he was pretending. No one can read his mind. Unfortunately for him, he did that to someone who has honed his reflexes to react instantaneously to that movement and throw punches in defense.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:15 pm to ZIGG
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This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:19 pm to Woolfpack
Zimmerman could have went back to his house also but he chased after Trayvon and the rest is history. The way the law is written dictates what someone can or can’t do in a situation.
If the laws wherever they are allow escalation in the face of a threat schilling will get off no issue. The guy was clearly drunk and belligerent. He fell into schilling then after schilling was walking away he mouthed off then either threw a punch or made a threatening move toward him. IMHO he had the right to defend himself and did a damn fine job.
Either way I doubt he spends any time in jail.
If the laws wherever they are allow escalation in the face of a threat schilling will get off no issue. The guy was clearly drunk and belligerent. He fell into schilling then after schilling was walking away he mouthed off then either threw a punch or made a threatening move toward him. IMHO he had the right to defend himself and did a damn fine job.
Either way I doubt he spends any time in jail.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:20 pm to diat150
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Zimmerman could have went back to his house also but he chased after Trayvon and the rest is history. The way the law is written dictates what someone can or can’t do in a situation.
If the laws wherever they are allow escalation in the face of a threat schilling will get off no issue. The guy was clearly drunk and belligerent. He fell into schilling then after schilling was walking away he mouthed off then either threw a punch or made a threatening move toward him. IMHO he had the right to defend himself and did a damn fine job.
Stahp.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:21 pm to diat150
quote:
Zimmerman could have went back to his house also but he chased after Trayvon and the rest is history. The way the law is written dictates what someone can or can’t do in a situation.
If the laws wherever they are allow escalation in the face of a threat schilling will get off no issue. The guy was clearly drunk and belligerent. He fell into schilling then after schilling was walking away he mouthed off then either threw a punch or made a threatening move toward him. IMHO he had the right to defend himself and did a damn fine job.
Either way I doubt he spends any time in jail.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:24 pm to ZIGG
No self defense there.
This drunk bastard didn’t deserve that.
I hope he loses his license to compete
This drunk bastard didn’t deserve that.
I hope he loses his license to compete
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:24 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Yeah. Right before he got lit up he did the classic elbows back, chest out, head jut fake. And he paid that piper.
Nope.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:26 pm to ZIGG
I may be part of the odds here but technically homie did flex as to swing at him so swinging back is justified.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:29 pm to tigerbutt
If it’s two drunk untrained guys, sure let them go
But he’s a trained world elite level l kickboxer with the height weight reach and all advantages, if he felt that threatened he could have just hip tossed him or restrain him. Not this
But he’s a trained world elite level l kickboxer with the height weight reach and all advantages, if he felt that threatened he could have just hip tossed him or restrain him. Not this
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:32 pm to lsucoonass
quote:Yea, he could have just walked away. He did walk past the dude, then turned around and went back into his face. That was a big issue imo.
But he’s a trained world elite level l kickboxer with the height weight reach and all advantages, if he felt that threatened he could have just hip tossed him or restrain him. Not this
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:34 pm to shel311
Yeah all he had to do was keep walking guy wasn’t gonna catch up to him
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:39 pm to ZIGG
Like it or not, he's trained to knock people out. The guy was probably annoying as frick and probably needed it, but you just can't. He wasn't a threat, it wasn't self defense, he'll get paid.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:44 pm to ZIGG
I have a question:
If the drunk guy had been acting an arse and disrupting the entire bar all night as the one side of this story we have heard claims, why didn't anyone at the bar make an effort to have the drunk guy thrown out?
With the extent of the drunk guy's alleged actions, they would have had more than enough reason to throw him out. It is going to get very interesting if the fighter winds up being a regular at the bar and friends with the staff. That part of the night was filmed for a reason. The guy was allowed to hang around for a reason. None of it looks good.
If the drunk guy had been acting an arse and disrupting the entire bar all night as the one side of this story we have heard claims, why didn't anyone at the bar make an effort to have the drunk guy thrown out?
With the extent of the drunk guy's alleged actions, they would have had more than enough reason to throw him out. It is going to get very interesting if the fighter winds up being a regular at the bar and friends with the staff. That part of the night was filmed for a reason. The guy was allowed to hang around for a reason. None of it looks good.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:50 pm to shel311
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Yea, he could have just walked away.
This deserves a thousand upvotes. There’s no confrontation if the guy just keeps walking, but he turns and gets in the guy’s face. If the case went before a jury in a criminal or civil context, there would be enough for a verdict against him or at least comparative fault.
He should’ve kept walking.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 6/29/21 at 3:11 pm to LegendInMyMind
Because that drunk guy is probably a regular and everyone knows his behavior. He’s harmless
The kickboxer clearly dwarfs him, walks past him, only then to turn around an hit him in self defense? It’s clearly assault
He could have kept walking or put his hands up and tell the drunk guy to hit his hands only then to put them down. the drunk guy would have fell and end of story
The kickboxer clearly dwarfs him, walks past him, only then to turn around an hit him in self defense? It’s clearly assault
He could have kept walking or put his hands up and tell the drunk guy to hit his hands only then to put them down. the drunk guy would have fell and end of story
Posted on 6/29/21 at 3:48 pm to GRTiger
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Why would he want his premeditated assault captured on film anyway? Complete nonsense.
The guy was expelled from four schools, kicked out of his house by his own mother, and gets punched in the face for a living…..you really think he puts a lot of thought into his actions?
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