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You are sent back in time to 1241 to participate in the defense of Europe vs the Mongols

Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:50 pm
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:50 pm
Scenario: You are at the Battle of Mohi on 11 April 1241 fighting with a combined force of Hungarians, Croatians, Austrians, and Knights Templar against the Golden Horde led by Beaty Khan.

Your force numbers approximately 50k-80k and you have the advantage of a fortified camp. On the other side are approximately 70k-100k Mongol Calvary, supported by 7 stone throwing siege engines. They have crossed the Sajo river over a single bridge to give battle. Because if this, a quick retreat is impossible (and they know this).

Spoiler: The Mongols routed the defenders by forcing them back to their camp after a brutal pitched battle on the plains with the river at their back and then using their siege weapons to devastating effect. The defenders fled the camp and were routed. Most of Hungary was raped and pillaged by the Mongols before infighting slowed the invasion.

You are given the choice between three weapons (and an unlimited supply of ammo).

Do you pick:
A. Barrett M107A1 50BMG Anti-material/personnel sniper rifle
B. M249 5.56mm LMG
C. M224 60mm lightweight mortar

How do you deploy the weapon in order to reverse the course of history and save the European homeland from invasion?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173778 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:52 pm to
Would my bodyguards be with me?
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
6018 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:56 pm to
Gimme the SAW. Start shooting as soon as possible.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:57 pm to
Dig trenches with cheval de frise, behind which are pikemen, behind which are machine guns from an elevated position.

WWI tells us mounted cavalry vs machine guns is a losing strategy for the guys on horseback.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21962 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:58 pm to
I’m going with option C. Most casualties and biggest emotional impact.

The Horde would wonder what type of new magic/technology was being deployed.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66896 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:58 pm to
Honestly, just give me about 1 million caltrops and I think I can shut down their all calvalry army.
Posted by TastyJibblets
North of I-10
Member since Jun 2018
681 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Would my bodyguards be with me?

Why would trailer trash have bodyguards
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173778 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:02 pm to
Why are you so familiar with trailers and their occupants?
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
21044 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Gimme the SAW

RIP

But I guess it is better than the other choices
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13231 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

I’m going with option C. Most casualties and biggest emotional impact.


This, and you HAVE to take out the siege engines and a mortar is perfect for that. And it has a lethal blast radius of around 100 feet so you can blow big holes in the Mongol lines. Find the best defensive position possible and start lobbing shells as fast as you can.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53604 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:03 pm to
What kind of dumb frick thinks he can turn the tide against an opposing force of 80k with one sniper rifle.

Oh but you have unlimited ammo though. That’s nice.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39243 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Do you pick:
A. Barrett M107A1 50BMG Anti-material/personnel sniper rifle
B. M249 5.56mm LMG
C. M224 60mm lightweight mortar

B.

Walk up to someone. Tell them I’m a wizard and can kill a man from 500 paces by pulling my finger. Prove it. Get brought to the ghengis. Kill ghengis. Take over.

Profit.
Posted by SD Tider
San Diego
Member since May 2019
2500 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

What kind of dumb frick thinks he can turn the tide against an opposing force of 80k with one sniper rifle.


Well you could target the leaders directing the battle and also take out their siege engine operators (could probably take out the siege engines themselves if you targeted the gears/pulleys etc.)
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
21044 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Walk up to someone. Tell them I’m a wizard and can kill a man from 500 paces by pulling my finger

Or, you could yell that and fire a mortar into the middle of their horde.

Ail kneel before Zod!
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:10 pm to
Anyone who doesn’t say the SAW doesn’t know what they’re talking about
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25337 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:10 pm to
M249 is the correct answer. The trouble would be needing unlimited guns and not just ammo. Overheating would be a big issue with my many charging horseman.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39243 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Or, you could yell that and fire a mortar into the middle of their horde.


Takes too long to reload. If people freak out and get antsy and rush you, ya fricked.

With the mg, you can mow down the room and the rest will freak the frick out and submit to the all mighty bang bang wizard.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
21044 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Anyone who doesn’t say the SAW doesn’t know what they’re talking about

Every Saw I have fired while in the military was good for a hundred rounds or so, then they start jamming.
I went from the Saw to a 240. I much prefer the 240 even though it is much more of a load to carry.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:14 pm to
D. I'm burying a shite ton of gold and jewels that I stole with modern day thinking/tactics, and hiding them in a place that is still undisturbed to this day. Then carving "Joe Burrow must choose the New Orleans Saints" on a cave wall, that through quick google search I can discover was only recently explored.

Then figuring out a way to get back to the future
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 3:15 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39243 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Every Saw I have fired while in the military was good for a hundred rounds or so, then they start jamming.


That’s all you need to become the all powerful bang bang wizard that consolidates control over the entire known world. 100 rounds at a time.
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