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re: You are not an American if you support this tragedy
Posted on 9/13/25 at 5:05 am to UtahCajun
Posted on 9/13/25 at 5:05 am to UtahCajun
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So self defense is murder to you.
From a technical standpoint, it is if it would have been murder otherwise.
In certain jurisdictions, stand your ground laws codify specific scenarios that amount to self-defence.
Certain types of self-defence are an affirmative defence for various types of homicides (and other would be crimes).
If the homicide meets the criteria for murder in the jurisdiction but for the self defence argument it is technically correct to call it legal murder. The potential crime always has to be defined prior to applying the self-defence statutes.
It might be unsavory to a non-attorney to view it as such, but it is a necessary process to properly apply the local self-defence or defence of others statutes.
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Posted on 9/13/25 at 8:49 am to SidewalkTiger
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All they have are false statements or something taken way out of context.
They killed him over these lies
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:00 am to sharkfhin
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You are not human if you support this tragedy
FIFY
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:46 am to TX Tiger
Americans are human.
Commies…
Commies…
Posted on 9/13/25 at 9:57 am to Obtuse1
quote:
From a technical standpoint, it is if it would have been murder otherwise.
In certain jurisdictions, stand your ground laws codify specific scenarios that amount to self-defence.
Certain types of self-defence are an affirmative defence for various types of homicides (and other would be crimes).
If the homicide meets the criteria for murder in the jurisdiction but for the self defence argument it is technically correct to call it legal murder. The potential crime always has to be defined prior to applying the self-defence statutes.
It might be unsavory to a non-attorney to view it as such, but it is a necessary process to properly apply the local self-defence or defence of others statutes
Earning your name baw! Sorry, I am kidding.
Anyway, I knew everything you just posted.
My point was Stand your ground is based on self-defense. It is not generally murder, even though it can be for legal reasons. Original poster said murder. He recanted to homicide. I agreed and didn't post back.
Anyway, thanks for posting. I usually like your posts.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:04 am to HogBalls
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Liberals are anti American pieces of shite. The true cancer of this country.
I’m not even sure there are that many real liberals left. Maybe a few like Bill Maher. Liberals believe, or believed, in things like freedom of speech, liberty, equality etc. And while they disagreed with the conservative viewpoint of America, they still inherently believed in and loved the concept of America. Those principles have been expunged from the political left of today.
They are openly hostile to freedom of speech and seek to squash any form of speech that doesn’t conform to their ideology. They hate personal freedoms and seek to compel others to live in ways they chose. They consider equality abhorrent and instead embrace what they call “equity.” And they hold a visceral hatred of all things American.
That why I’ve taken to describing what remains of the political left as “leftists” or, and perhaps this is more accurate, as “Marxists.”
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:16 am to Hobie101
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I’m liberal and I don’t know a single person that supports this murder.
I unfortunately am aware of four and I am sickened.
And by the way, liberals are not my enemy and they are my fellow countrymen. It’s Leftist and communists that are my enemy, and communists should no longer be tolerated after September 10th. It’s clear the shooter was a genocidal communist and communism is a sickness.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:18 am to Craig86
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It's okay to acknowledge that Charlie Kirk spewed hateful lies and rhetoric and made a hefty profit off doing so
Such as? People say this shite, and they have nothing, many of which have to make an apology when they’re called out for talking shite, like Steven King said the other day. Sure Charlie was for traditional marriage, but he loved gay people and happily accepted them into his movement.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:20 am to biglego
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100% of democrats support this. Many are openly celebrating. The others support the type of trash who openly celebrate it.
Get this shite out of here. Half of my family is Democrat and all of them without exception are mortified by this. It’s this kind of shite that escalates things and makes another incident inevitable.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:24 am to EastWestConnection
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this country is totally cooked. everyone fricking hates each other. its sickening. there is absolutely nothing holding us together as a nation.
You have to look back to the very beginning of this country to understand the hate you describe. America, from its inception, was built on Christian principles by Christians for Christians. Many don’t like and reject this today. But that doesn’t change the fact that this is the truth of how our country was built. John Adams stated it best…
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
As long as our society was united by core moral principles, our society thrived. But, starting in the late 19th century, the cancer of progressivism, an off-shoot of Socialism/Marxism, began to grow. Progressivism is the antithesis of Christianity. This was where the division that we see today started. Now this cancer is well over a century old and has reached malignant levels. As Jesus said in Matthew 12…
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Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.“
Believe what you want about the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth, but he is exactly right. A house divided against itself cannot stand. And the truth of the division we see today in America is because a growing segment of the country has rejected the foundation upon which this country was built.
Many here will not like what I’ve said. They’ll mock it, down vote it, but what they cannot do is refute it.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 10:44 am to Weekend Warrior79
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It's a message board, not a term paper. If what he types is grammatically incorrect or has some misspellings but still gets the message across, why does anyone care about the grammar or misspellings.
This deserves being posted twice. It’s a message board.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:55 pm to biglego
quote:during a session in the house when he was shot, the speaker asked the whole consortium to bow their head in prayer and "all" of the democrats booed. Its on utube...sad
celebrating. The others support the type of trash who openly celebrate it
Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:56 pm to ole man
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You 73 down voters just can't get it can you, keep being stupid!
Posted on 9/13/25 at 3:59 pm to Hobie101
quote:im Maga and I agree.
don’t know a single person that supports this murder.
Let’s say 5% of Americans are extreme right and 5% are extreme left. Some will disagree, But Id like to hope there are 90 % of Americans that go about their day, using some common sense and reason as they do their jobs and live their life. I never see any extremism in my day to day life.
All the hate speech and uproar on the socials
is in response to a small percentage of the population, yet we act like it’s an entire party.
Point is, get off social media and be a human. Missing out on real life.
Posted on 9/13/25 at 4:00 pm to Craig86
quote:prove it. Liar frick off
okay to acknowledge that Charlie Kirk spewed hateful lies and rhetoric and made a hefty profit off doing so; while also acknowledging that this assassination is heinous and the culprit will be caught and punished rightly so.
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