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re: Yeonmi Park on Joe Rogan Experience

Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:57 pm to
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He has gives no push back at all to his guests. I would take everything his guests say with a grain of salt. Do some research if you want real facts.




You could say that for any person he interviews

I listened to his Jimmy Dore interview last week. He let Jimmy say a whole bunch of stuff that’s untrue on a molecular level, but he let him say it. A lot of it is conjecture or a political view on the world.

He’d let Shapiro go on and say the exact opposite without much pushback.

I disagree with Dore but I think he’s making good faith arguments, just has the wrong answers.

I can handle and appreciate that because I know if I were sitting across from Dore, the argument would be leading towards actual solutions not just finger pointing.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:04 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49077 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:58 pm to
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Progs really defend North Korea and the CCP. Comrades, I guess.


They hate themselves more than america. America is just an outlet for the rage because at the same time they are oddly narcissistic
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50542 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:00 pm to
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state indoctrination at universities

God you sound delusional, just because college tend to be liberal doesn't mean there's some big indoctrination program. You're just mad that your opinions aren't aligning with these schools
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And 30 years from now people will say how did we ever end up here. Little by little by little.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50542 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:01 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber

You truly have some of the worst takes on this site
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
30684 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:03 pm to
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college tend to be liberal


Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:03 pm to
I'd green card her
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:05 pm to
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just because college tend to be liberal


They haven't been liberal in over a decade.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:07 pm to
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They hate themselves more than america. America is just an outlet for the rage because at the same time they are oddly narcissistic


I tend to agree. It all stems from self loathing, and their narcissistic outlet is fulfilled by virtue signaling.

Low self esteem is then boosted by collective identity.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50542 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 8:26 pm to
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They haven't been liberal in over a decade.

Ah yes I see you believe anything left of your ideas are clearly communist marxist and socialism

Probably can't even define any of the three terms but you spout the same shite regardless
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:05 pm to
Very true. Leftists hate themselves but take it out on non leftists.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:02 pm to
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I did my research, and found that she may have either misremembered somethings or lied about some things.
I am not speaking for anyone else, but that is a huge problem for me. She obviously will say whatever she thinks Americans who back her financially want to hear. It discredits the even legitimate things she says. The ends don’t justify the means.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78750 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:12 pm to
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What?


progressive ideals are regressive and they are literally being tyrants to achieve it.

you dont agree? well we will get you fired, burn down your business, harass you in public, come to your homes, frick with your kids, fail you, kick you out of school and possibly arrest you.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117265 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:16 pm to
Is she trying to sell a book? If so, I am sure there are some exaggerated stories.. Of course, that's just an assumption, but read the book 'Nothing to Envy'.

North Korea is pretty fricked up.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78750 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:22 pm to
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She’s not the first North Korean defector to say these things to the rest of the world. Not even close. Every thing she has said has been said by others before


yeah i watched a video a long time ago. a doctor was brought in to fix a lot of peoples eyes, poor nutrition. they snuck cameras in. it was spooky as shite.

when the doctor would fix people up they would bow down and thank the Supreme leader for heeling them.

they dont even realize hes the reason they have to import a doctor to help them in the first place.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 10:25 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:29 pm to
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Listening to it now. It should be mandatory for everyone in this country to listen to her story. Its extremely humbling and forces you to look around at all you've got and be grateful for it. Its so easy to forget how blessed you are.


Agreed. North Korea was even worse than I thought it was. I thought it was just a non-stop Mao’s Great Leap Forward, but it’s worse. While China wants to control language, they didn’t butcher it to the point of removing anything resembling humanity. While Mao was for the collective, he didn’t do with the kids to near the degree the Kims did if only so Mao could use their kids to threaten their parents.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:32 pm to
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There will be immense worldwide pressure to reunify SK and NK. It may end up being China vs the world with the USA leading charge for reunification.


The problem is North Koreans are largely insane. Yeonmi is clearly a genius level intellect, so the vast majority won’t be nearly as easy to acclimate them to the West as her. It’s not like the Chinese that knew of the joys of the Western world and thus can be reasoned with. The average Chinese person understands the state of the world and mostly hate their own government, but North Koreans do not. South Koreans don’t want to reunify with the North at this point.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:35 pm to
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I saw her on the Lex Freidman podcast. Its crazy how they have no concept of romantic or familial love. Only love to their god/leader.


That’s the thing that surprised me the most. Despite all the horrors the Chinese have gone through, they’re still an extremely family oriented culture and carefully raise their kids (unless it’s a girl and they throw her off to the orphanage). I thought were more like old people I spoke with over there, when they’re way, way more damaged than they were.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:36 pm to
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I listened to 10 seconds on a YouTube clip yesterday and immediately had to put on the whole thing. Unreal stuff. I have to imagine the only reason the whole world has 0 discourse on the atrocities is the threat of nuclear weapons from NK


That’s not the reason, and she goes into detail on the reason: it’s China. Penguin Books dropped her when the CCP called and threatened to ban their books in their country and no longer do book deals over in America.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:40 pm to
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What does China even want with NK?


A) A barrier between it and a thriving democracy/US troops.
B) A whore house for its 34 million single men.
C) Free slave labor
D) A lab to do really, really fricked up shite that they wouldn’t even do to the Uyghurs and if ever found out they’d just make Kim the fall guy.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
24883 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:25 pm to
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Yeonmi is clearly a genius level intellect


You mustve never seen her reality show where she calls herself the Paris Hilton of North Korea

only the poli board tards will root against america in the olympics, then say US is headed towards being north korea, then claim they love america more than you if you disagree

extremism is bad no matter which side it comes from
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 11:37 pm
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