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re: WW2 alternate history

Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:31 am to
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:31 am to
I hate what ifs that can’t change what was. Accept the actual result and move on.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:44 am to
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I doubt the free market economies would have allowed much trade once the holocaust hit the news wires.



If the Nazis win, we don't find the concentration camps. If word ever does get out, the Nazis blame Stalin for the Holocaust.

We might not have Red China, the Kim regime, the Vietnam War, or the ayatollahs, but we would have plenty of other problems to replace those. We miss out on the post WW2 economic boom since Germany is relatively unscathed and gets to be the country that rebuilds Europe. Eugenics is still socially acceptable. We still have Jim Crow, since we no longer have the optics of black soldiers bleeding and dying overseas for freedom they were denied at home. No Ike or JFK - in the latter case, that means no space race, so we miss out on the technological advances and national pride from beating an ideological enemy to the moon.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74661 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:58 am to
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What if Nazi Germany and the USSR attached Poland st once. Who would you want the US to support?

I'm going with the Germans bc screw communism and I love what they did to the French


I’m guessing history isn’t your sting suite.

Spoiler....


The dude on our left with his back to us is a German officer. The one on the right shaking his hand is a Soviet officer. They’re standing in Poland. Guess how they got there?
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7956 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:59 am to
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Have y’all seen the show on Prime called Man in the High Castle? This is exactly what it’s about.
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My husband watched Season 1, but he never picked it back up.

Interesting idea for a show.


Very interesting idea, but carried out poorly. At the end of the first season there was no resolution or even a hint of what was actually going on with the films of "our" reality vs. the alternate history they lived in in which the Nazis and Japs split America in half. Was too bored to watch the second season (unless someone tells me otherwise(.

Posted by Averytiger
Member since Dec 2017
1366 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:22 am to
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Averytiger. Want to meet a real man?


Well, if you keep up with the news, we teachers are supposedly drenched in sex already, even in the classroom.

Also, no thanks. I have a real man.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27644 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:34 am to
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once the holocaust hit the news wires
I guess I was assuming that if he would have been smart enough not to invade Poland he would have been smart enough to leave the Jews alone or at least handle them in a civil way. Back then nobody loved the Jews, not even us. Been a long time since I read period political writings from those days. Seems like I remember seeing the phrase, "The Jewish problem," bandied around. It was kind of weird seeing that kind of thinking when viewed in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:05 am to
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BTW, Germany and the USSR did attack Poland simultaneously.



Soviets were 16 days after Germany. Poland had already been rolled by the German war machine.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:58 am to
Molotov–Ribbentrop pretty much agreed ahead of time that they would split Poland.

The Soviets invaded 16 days after Germany. It was all about tge agreement to split it. Hitler only really wanted the Danzig area to unite to the germanic area east..

Likely the only reason it didnt occur on the same day was that Russia had not yet ended their war with Japan
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17232 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:11 pm to
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BTW, Germany and the USSR did attack Poland simultaneously.


Actually they didn't. Stalin waited two weeks after the German invasion before sending Soviet troops in to fulfill the secret agreement in the non-aggression pact. This allowed Stalin to claim publicly that the Soviets were only acting in their own security interests and thus creating an excuse for the Western allies to treat the Soviet invasion as something different than that of the Germans.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:23 pm to
The second season was much better. The American characters weren’t as annoying as in season 1 and there’s more explanation.
Posted by HammerheadLincoln
The farther west the farther out
Member since May 2015
5807 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 12:42 pm to
It always amazes me how people actually find ways to support the fricking Nazis
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