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re: WSJ "Article" Blames men for dating problems.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:57 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:57 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Agreed. I'm not even going to bother with it whenever I feel like looking again. Of course I have like a cheat code working in healthcare, but then again it's also a double edged sword because lots of them have TONS of issues. Ask tigernurse about it.
there are so many pyt's out there trying to build their life dreams on the backs (and fronts) of the new residents - so I get what y'all are sayin about some females and their antics.
Red Flag- Stanley Cups
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 8:59 pm to OceanTiger83
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Like just from statistics that shouldn't be possible.
It's because they're fricking with it in order to extract cash from you.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:05 pm to tigernurse
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You seem to be a very nice man, don't sell yourself short- consider yourself to be your most valuable asset and don't spend it on or with anyone not deserving. she is out there... just wait for her. and in the mean time- do the things you love and enjoy the most.
Thank you. I was actually recently on a cruise and struck up good conversations with 3 women at various points. None of them went anywhere as I was with friends but they all said the same thing. That I was kind, nice, approachable and that they enjoyed talking. So that tells me it can't be completely hopeless. But yet on the dating apps I get nothing but rejection and nowadays it's hard to find women.
I'll admit I was a mess for many years. Thankfully I never got into the Incel garbage but I did go into the MGTOW rabbit hole for awhile. I know many don't see a difference but there are subtle differences. It's nice at first because you feel like you meet men going through the same frustrations you are. But later on you realize those men have no answers for you and that there's no way out. They want you to be miserable just like many of them are and you end up really disliking women as a whole.
The MGTOW movement strips away your ability to see women as individuals and you start to see women as only as a big group that are all the same.
The low point for me came during all the #MeToo stuff. At one point I even seriously considered getting a body camera to record all interactions with women to have evidence showing there was no intimidation and harassment. It would've cost me my job as my Company does not allow recording on a personal device. Never mind it would've just been awkward. It made me realize though just how messed up MGTOW had made me and that if I didn't change course I would be lonely and miserable.
That time period made me realize how much MGTOW had messed me up and I've genuinely tried to remove their programming from my head. Some of it still tries to pop up from time to time but for the most part I think I've been successful.
The biggest thing is I hate that it stripped me of several years of my life when it comes to dating. I'm not perfect by any means but I'm much better than I was a few years ago and I wish more women would see that compared to "well he's not perfect so I'm not even going to consider him".
But I do genuinely try to stay optimistic and more than anything I've learned that we're all messed up to some degree but deep down usually want the same thing and are just trying to make the best of whatever life we have.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:06 pm to tigernurse
Pretty young things? Took me a minute.
It's not like it's not the same thing in healthcare anyway. The good, stable solid ones are usually married with children and not going anywhere. So you have to sift through the rest and try to find the least crazy option you're attracted to.
But they ARE out there. I made plenty of mistakes growing up and it's been a long journey. It's just that a lot of women's mistakes end up being children. And I mean that in no way as an insult or a slight. My ex's son was a joy to be around 90% of the time. And she wouldn't trade him for anything in the world.
So I feel like we have to make some sacrifices if we want to be with someone. Do I want to have to (in part at least) help raise someone else's kid? No. But do I want to be in a healthy and fulfilling relationship? Yes. So which one is more important to me? And like I said before, it's not ALL bad when it comes to kids. I got to play tour guide and give him experiences he never would have gotten otherwise. And I actually enjoyed it. Never even met his actual dad. Like it just wasn't the big deal breaker I thought it would be.
It's not like it's not the same thing in healthcare anyway. The good, stable solid ones are usually married with children and not going anywhere. So you have to sift through the rest and try to find the least crazy option you're attracted to.
But they ARE out there. I made plenty of mistakes growing up and it's been a long journey. It's just that a lot of women's mistakes end up being children. And I mean that in no way as an insult or a slight. My ex's son was a joy to be around 90% of the time. And she wouldn't trade him for anything in the world.
So I feel like we have to make some sacrifices if we want to be with someone. Do I want to have to (in part at least) help raise someone else's kid? No. But do I want to be in a healthy and fulfilling relationship? Yes. So which one is more important to me? And like I said before, it's not ALL bad when it comes to kids. I got to play tour guide and give him experiences he never would have gotten otherwise. And I actually enjoyed it. Never even met his actual dad. Like it just wasn't the big deal breaker I thought it would be.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:16 pm to OceanTiger83
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The low point for me came during all the #MeToo stuff. At one point I even seriously considered getting a body camera to record all interactions with women to have evidence showing there was no intimidation and harassment.
I have a 16 y/o son, and we have had this conversation several times- about how to conduct himself knowing that one misstep could have life and career altering consequences.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:31 pm to tigernurse
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I have a 16 y/o son, and we have had this conversation several times- about how to conduct himself knowing that one misstep could have life and career altering consequences.
Good for you for doing that. It's unfortunate but it's necessary. The bad thing in terms of dating is that most adults will spend 1/3 of their adult life (with the exception of retirement of course) at work so it's a natural place where you might meet someone you are compatible with, but it's simply too risky now.
Even if you're at the same level or in different departments one misstep means you're career with that Company is potentially gone.
Work has essentially become off limits for any type of relationship and I think it's another reason people has resorted to relying on dating apps so much.
The situation I brought up was far more irrational though. I'm not in a position where I have managerial power over people so there wasn't that aspect. And I wasn't just talking about work. MGTOW had me so paranoid during that period I had thought about a body camera for ALL interactions with women. That includes inside and outside of the workplace.
Men definitely have to be more careful now but I realized the MGTOW stuff was making me irrationally terrified of women and that it would only destroy me going forward.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:33 pm to prplhze2000
Men have realized being single and not risking 50% of your now and future earnings is an option. It is not the only option but it is an option.
Check out the Men Who Go Their Own Way community online.
While Woman who remain singer get more and more bitter every year especially those who let a man they were never married to impregnate them.
Check out the Men Who Go Their Own Way community online.
While Woman who remain singer get more and more bitter every year especially those who let a man they were never married to impregnate them.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:35 pm to bird35
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Check out the Men Who Go Their Own Way community online.
While some of the tenants of MGTOW are good (specifically the focus on your mental health, physical health and your interests) most MGTOW communities are toxic and are nothing more than Incel lite. The one I was on basically was taken over by Incels and just became nothing but a woman hating community.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:50 pm to OceanTiger83
MGTOW or whatever seems like a place for losers, no offense.
Men love women, and women love men.
That's just the way it is.
Men love women, and women love men.
That's just the way it is.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:52 pm to N2cars
I keep thinking it's some sort of acronym for magic the gathering.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:54 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I keep thinking it's some sort of acronym for magic the gathering
I had to google it. Posted on 9/23/23 at 9:59 pm to tigernurse
Well from what I just read the first rule is swearing off women, so uh yeah, that's just not gonna work for me.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:01 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Lots of women are scorned in the world and they can't break out of the cycle of choosing men who cause them to become even further scorned.
Don’t frick without a condom. There. I just saved these women a lot of fricking scorn.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:04 pm to SuperSaint
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quote:Centrists
mUh BoOgEyMaN
So you’re saying there are no centrists on this site?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:27 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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So you’re saying there are no centrists on this site?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 11:11 pm to OceanTiger83
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You even try to approach women nowadays you are risking them accusing you of harassment.
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I tried Bumble just for the heck of it and decided to swipe on probably 300-400 women. I got 2 responses and never met either woman. They didn't really want to meet,
quote:how unfortunate looking of a Baw are you? Gat damn son
OceanTiger83
Posted on 9/23/23 at 11:14 pm to prplhze2000
Does she not wanna talk about the miserable counts all over social media?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 11:19 pm to prplhze2000
Feminist don’t hate men so much that they want to be alone, they want a man they can control. If you don’t want to deal with their BS, they say you are the problem.
Posted on 9/24/23 at 4:55 am to prplhze2000
Every accusation is a confession.
The white hot rage that I encounter online and irl is 99% feminine. Guys are supportive and understanding of the struggle. It’s a razor’s edge we have to navigate.
I’m just putting this out there. It’s true.
Every job that I have ever had since I started working at 14 years old has had a woman stealing from work. Every job. On mother’s day a woman and her black boyfriend tried to steal cattle from us.
Anyway
The white hot rage that I encounter online and irl is 99% feminine. Guys are supportive and understanding of the struggle. It’s a razor’s edge we have to navigate.
I’m just putting this out there. It’s true.
Every job that I have ever had since I started working at 14 years old has had a woman stealing from work. Every job. On mother’s day a woman and her black boyfriend tried to steal cattle from us.
Anyway
Posted on 9/24/23 at 6:27 am to N2cars
I’m thinking these women didn’t make efforts to be hot so that random 5’9” middle class joes could get them. The whole reason independent women are a thing is because they didn’t like the selection of men they had
Men need to be better
Men need to be better
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