re: WSJ "Article" Blames men for dating problems.

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Maybe guys are just tired of the bull shite.

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I think you’re on to something here.

I thank God that I found a quality woman 15 years ago. I can’t imagine dating 20-30yo women these days.

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him and brgfather combined likely have as much testosterone as the writer of this article.

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Yeah...you and LOLibertarian needing a trigger warning for my posts is definitely a sign of "high T"

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Centrists

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mUh BoOgEyMaN

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I just saw an article this week that something like 62% of men 30 and under are single. The percentage of women 30 and under who are single is something like half that.

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So how does this work?

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The United States has had more females than males since 1946, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. In 2021, the population sex ratio in the U.S. was 98 males per 100 females. By 2050, it is expected to be 99

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Women all gravitating to older guys? Because the numbers are pretty equal.

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I thank God that I found a quality woman 15 years ago. I can’t imagine dating 20-30yo women these days.

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When, generations from now, whatever society rises up from the ashes of Western Civilization studies the causes of our collapse, they’ll conclude one of the final nails in the coffin was in fact third wave feminism.

This article hits too close to home for me. Like a lot of men I screwed up. I didn't want a serious relationship and definitely didn't want marriage in my 20s and early 30s. I just wanted to have freedom and didn't want or need a woman in my life.

Now don't get me wrong, being single is far better than being unhappily married. I was never going to be the type to get married just because that's what society expected of me. But being happily married is better than being single.

I have tried to get back into the dating game and have seen first hand how horrible is has become. You even try to approach women nowadays you are risking them accusing you of harassment. While it may not ruin your life in the very least it's getting you kicked out of that bar/club/establishment. The pandemic made it to where online dating/dating apps is essentially the only real place to meet women without risking a harassment accusation.

Online dating and dating apps have destroyed any sense of traditional dating. It's all a meat market and it badly favors women. I tried Bumble just for the heck of it and decided to swipe on probably 300-400 women. I got 2 responses and never met either woman. They didn't really want to meet, they just wanted the attention for a little bit. With those odds what's the point even trying?

Online dating and dating apps have created a whole generation of women who think they deserve far more than they really do. Plus you get women in the 5-6 looks range who have a one night fling with a 8, 9 or 10 guy and now only wants to date them. They fail to realize that 8, 9 or 10 guy would never even think about dating them. The 8, 9 or 10 guy they had a one night fling with probably didn't even remember their name the next morning.

Alas though with the situation above and online dating/dating apps more than ever your average 5 - 7 guy doesn't have a chance. Those guys are invisible to women nowadays so it's understandable that guys just give up. I'll be honest, I'm seriously considering just saying screw it and giving up myself.

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Women all gravitating to older guys? Because the numbers are pretty equal.

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Women gravitating to older guys, very high end guys (9's and 10's in terms of looks and/or money) dating multiple women and more and more women openly becoming lesbian. Just one lesbian couple obviously takes two women off the market for men. A lot of those lesbian women would have most likely dated men in previous generations.

Being 39 myself and in the dating market you would think the fact women are dating older men would be to my advantage. The way 21-30 year old women are though they simply aren't worth the trouble. The problem is all the women my age are divorced and/or have kids. I can handle the divorced part. I'm not cleaning up after another man's mess though. I want a relationship, not instant fatherhood.

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Online dating and dating apps have created a whole generation of women who think they deserve far more than they really do. Plus you get women in the 5-6 looks range who have a one night fling with a 8, 9 or 10 guy and now only wants to date them. They fail to realize that 8, 9 or 10 guy would never even think about dating them. The 8, 9 or 10 guy they had a one night fling with probably didn't even remember their name the next morning.

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This is one of the biggest issues with the modern dating system.

In the past, average tended to attract average, above average attracted above average, etc.

Online connectivity has skewed the visual perception of both the individual and the opposite sex. It is more apparent with women since the “you’re perfect” mindset is so prevalent with that gender.

Males aren’t built up socially and personally that way.

No one would say, “Scruffy, you are a 10”, and if Scruffy said that about himself, everyone, including his own dad would call him out.

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The problem is all the women my age are divorced and/or have kids. I can handle the divorced part. I'm not cleaning up after another man's mess though.

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So I can also speak to this directly. I just got out of a long-term relationship with a single mother. No kids of my own either. And it was definitely an issue in some ways and in some other ways, it was really a wonderful thing. I got to experience the fun of taking a kid on vacation and showing him things and giving him experiences that he would have never otherwise been able to have.

There's pros and cons and I get it. It is definitely a challenge. But there are nice things about it as well. It's a good feeling when a kid thanks you for something you did for him and you didn't have to. I miss the little guy.