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re: WSHH: Police Officer Shoots And Kills Unarmed Man During A Traffic Stop!
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:12 pm to uway
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:12 pm to uway
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Just for the record, our soldiers in combat have stricter rules of engagement than that. They cant shoot until they see a gun.
And just for the record, the justification for lethal action is the same for a cop is the same for a normal citizen.
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:18 pm to theenemy
I am actually excited he killed the piece of shite
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:18 pm to theenemy
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And just for the record, the justification for lethal action is the same for a cop is the same for a normal citizen.
In theory, maybe. A video of a citizen starting an encounter and then shooting to death someone who never assaulted them or produced a weapon would get that citizen thrown in jail.
You really don't have a problem that cops can shoot anybody who reaches for their waist in a certain manner?
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:21 pm to theenemy
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whether or not it was justified.
A Coroner's inquest ruled the shooting a non-criminal, justifiable homicide. Officer Morrison was cleared of any wrongdoing
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:24 pm to uway
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In theory, maybe. A video of a citizen starting an encounter and then shooting to death someone who never assaulted them or produced a weapon would get that citizen thrown in jail.
No in fact. I have personally been on more than one scene where a citizen shot an unarmed person. Those citizen were not taken into custody, not charged, and never had their weapon seized outside of an on scene examination to record and run the serial number.
Section 13A-3-23....
(e) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force described in subsection (a), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force used was unlawful.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:24 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Cop should have yelled praise admiral Akbar or whatever the frick Isis terrorist say and no one would be covering it
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:30 pm to Five0
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No in fact. I have personally been on more than one scene where a citizen shot an unarmed person. Those citizen were not taken into custody, not charged, and never had their weapon seized outside of an on scene examination to record and run the serial number.
Was there video of the incident?
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:33 pm to uway
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You really don't have a problem that cops can shoot anybody who reaches for their waist in a certain manner?
Again...you have to look at the totality....not everything separately.
A normal guy reaches in his waist....Probably not reasonable to think he is pulling a gun.
A guy who committed an armed robbery for methamphetamines and shot the other guy and had already fled on foot from another traffic stop reaches in his waistband....I don't think it is that far fetched to believe he might be pulling a gun.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:34 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Some people just don't listen
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:35 pm to uway
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Was there video of the incident?
At the gas station, yes.
At the public storage facility, yes.
At an individual's home, no.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 9:35 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
So what
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:27 pm to TDsngumbo
Armed or unarmed is not a reasonable standard when determining if lethal force was justified.
Imagine the legal dilemma if an unarmed rapist attacked a woman with a gun in her purse.
Imagine the legal dilemma if an unarmed rapist attacked a woman with a gun in her purse.
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:31 pm to sleepytime
A critical thinker, welcome aboard. 
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:05 am to Five0
I was coming here to post this.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:22 am to LSUFAN2005
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Thats full blown murder right there.
I agree, what a bastard!! frick him!! The TPOS Cop had enough audacity to cry like a bitch afterwards.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:26 am to Slinky
Dale is that You? Love the show. 
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:47 am to uway
Have you ever been in a situation in which you suddenly felt your life was in danger? At that moment, where do you rationalize the line to be drawn for escalating force? Watching the video, without feeling that my life is in danger, I too believe he fired his weapon too soon. However, I can not see into the car on the video. I don't know the back story of anyone in the incedent, from the cop to any of the people in the vehicle. The ONLY people who can relive the moment are those who were there. The argument is not if I think he acted too quickly. The argument is if a reasonable person could believe there is a threat of serious bodily injury, disfigurement, or death. I believe the answer is yes. The officer's reaction after the incident is completely irrelevant. It seems, at least, that merely seeing this particular individual in the back seat of this vehicle increased the threat level for this particular officer considerably. The officer clearly told the occupants that their actions were making him nervous.
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 12:58 am
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:23 am to uway
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You really don't have a problem that cops can shoot anybody who reaches for their waist in a certain manner?
Nope! No problem with it at all.
Ramirez may still be alive today, albeit in jail for the previous crimes, if he'd just listened to the officer and kept his hands in sight.
If you're ever confronted by an officer, don't reach for your pockets or waistband and you won't get shot, especially after being warned to keep your hands where they can be seen multiple times.
It really is that simple.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:58 am to cdaniel76
hmm pretty convenient to have a break down cry fest in front of your camera. LOL
I think the cop fired too quickly and he is damn lucky he did not kill another passenger.
I think the cop fired too quickly and he is damn lucky he did not kill another passenger.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 2:04 am to Five0
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The video of that incident that will never be as popular
I don't know what you were going for by linking that but I don't think it had the desired effect.
That cop is full of shite
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